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Share your thoughts on the second anniversary. of the Sept 11th attacks. Actual Hate filled post
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Posted on 09/11/2003 10:08:31 AM PDT by UB355

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:10:44 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Leandro
Nice litany of vague generalities....

Good for you on passing up McDonalds. Your heart will thank you. Now, I wonder if your country et. al. will also refuse all our millions of dollars in aid, just by way of protest. Wouldn't want to sully yourselves, would you?

22 posted on 09/11/2003 10:28:51 AM PDT by workerbee
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To: Leandro
I stopped eating at McDonalds at least 10 years ago.

Most recently I stopped purchasing anything French.

As far as toppling the dictator or Iraq, seems to me there were more than a dozen United Nations condemnations of old saddam along with a 14 or 15 to 0 vote by the UN Security council . Please study the facts.
23 posted on 09/11/2003 10:29:10 AM PDT by UB355
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To: Leandro
uh and we twisted other country's arms to get them into debt? I thought they were prosperous? didn't they borrow money? now that they have to pay it back - just like everybody else - do they blame us. we were fine when it was our money they were borrowing.

nobody forced your rich country to borrow it's way into poverty, you did it to yourselves so don't blame us unless you want us to patronize you and claim that your country's best and brightest were too stupid to realize that borrowed money must be paid back with interest.

your poverty is not our fault, and whatever comforts you do enjoy, such as the internet came from us. you thus become hypocritical when you use USA technology to bash the USA.
24 posted on 09/11/2003 10:29:21 AM PDT by camle (not even a water balloon fight can rouse these dullards!)
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To: UB355
America has earned it's place in the world by taking risks and working hard. No one gave us any foreign aid and if we are the most hated country in the world, how come everyone is trying to move here?

Poor countries are poor because of their own leadership. Let them do what we did.......work for it.

Only morons get pissed off at America......they are in the greatest place on earth and they still can't make it.....isn't that true?
25 posted on 09/11/2003 10:30:04 AM PDT by sfvgt ("if you're gonna shoot, shoot, don't talk"(Tuco: the good, the bad, and the ugly))
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To: UB355
Oh boo, 17 was removed. No shredding allowed
26 posted on 09/11/2003 10:30:29 AM PDT by UB355
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To: Leandro
You raised so many points it is hard to discuss all at once. But, for starters, how did the US destroy Iraq? Iraq is way, way better off now.
27 posted on 09/11/2003 10:31:11 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: UB355
Cult of Islam follower? By all means, commit suicide.

Just don't take any innocents with you.
28 posted on 09/11/2003 10:33:08 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: UB355

Somebody from Birmingham deserves a good swift kick.

29 posted on 09/11/2003 10:33:46 AM PDT by Jonah Hex (kittens are only dangerous if you're a 'Rat.)
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To: Leandro
Vague accusations do not make intelligent debate.

People all over the world are jealous of the success of America. That is the source of your 'hate'. You pretty much admit it outright when you blame the US for causing poverty in other countries.

Bud, these places were poor long before anyone in the USA ever heard of them. I challenge you to name one country that would benefit from being isolated from the United States.

And good for you for not eating at McDonalds. (You know, I haven't eaten McDonalds in over a decade, myself, and it has nothing to do with politics, just food quality.)
30 posted on 09/11/2003 10:36:30 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Israel is the canary in the coal mine of Islamofascism)
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To: Leandro
You took a stand against the war by not eating at McDonalds? I don't eat at McDonals because it's dog food.

What can I say? I am crushed by your moral superiority.

"I guess you should learn enought geography to tell anything about other countries."

You should learn proper sentense structure and spelling.

By the way, your nation's currency is a joke: http://www.lileks.com/money/brazil/index.html
32 posted on 09/11/2003 10:37:48 AM PDT by Rusty Shackelford
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To: sfvgt
Poor countries are poor because of their own leadership.

Amen.

Hong kong, a tiny country with no natural resources, is among the wealthiest per capita in the world. Most of Africa is rich in natural resources, yet its countries are the poorest. Both were colonized by Western imperialists. The difference? Hong Kong has low taxes and low government interference in the economy. Africa has high taxes and high government interference in its economies (aka socialist dictators who take all the wealth for themselves).

Are you up for a real debate leandro, or were you just indulging in some feel good anti-Americanism?

33 posted on 09/11/2003 10:43:11 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: Leandro
USA receives about billions of money from HUGE interest rated debts form other countries

The United States has indeed lent money to other countries, and the US does indeed charge interest on loans.

This is not a crime, and every developed country in the world - and even Third World countries like Brazil - do the same.

has urged hundries of militar coup d´etats around the world for better business opportunities,

Although you are lying rather pathetically when you say "hundreds", I'll take it easy on you and ask you for a specific example of such an "urged" coup d'etat.

has deliberately lied and cheated to force profitable wars around the world.

Please name one war in which the US has engaged in which the US made a profit, rather than losing an enormous amount of cash. Hint: The Spanish American War, the First World War, the Second World War, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the First Gulf War and the Second Gulf War were so far all huge cost centers for the US.

I guess that the profits do compensate the meager international help.

There are no "profits" other than enhanced security. Wars are expensive - please quantify these so-called "profits" with hard statistsics, rather than empty rhetoric, please.

By the way, how strange to destroy Iraq against world opinion and now ask other countries for reconstruction help...

It's only strange if we accept your flawed premises: why would the US ask other countries to take their share of the responsibility for rebuilding Iraq if the Iraq War was so profitable? Why wouldn't the US just keep Iraq all to itself if Iraq were such a moneymaking opportunity?

By the way, USA is not the most advanced in medicine, education, jobs and health resources in the world,

If the US were not the most medically advanced country in the world, why has all ground-breaking medical research in pharmaceuticals and surgery over the past two decades come from the US?

As far as education is concerned, millions of students from every country in the world pay a great deal of money to study at American universities. More international students come to the US to study than to all the other countries of the world combined.

People vote with their feet and everyone wants to come to America. Very few seem to want to move to Brazil so they can squat in a shit-smeared shack in Cidade do Deus.

I guess you should learn enought geography to tell anything about other countries... :o)

Do you honestly believe that the sad percentage of Brazilians who even receive a basic education know their geography better than Americans do?

By the way, I am from Brazil... And since the beginning of the Iraq war I stopped eating in Mc Donalds...

I never eat there myself.

No one in America cares enough about Brazil to boycott any Brazilian stores - which is convenient, since Brazil has absolutely no commercial presence in the US whatsoever. If Brazil ceased all exports to America tomorrow, we wouldn't even notice. If the US ceased all exports to Brazil tomorrow, your economy would collapse even further.

At my street I can find a better, cheaper, and tastier place...

I'm sure you can. Good luck with that.

And just in case, Rock´n Roll can be better in many other countries too.

"Can" and "are" are quite different. Maybe one day soon a famous Brazilian will take the American pop charts by storm. The problem is, the last time that happened it was Astrud Gilberto.

You've had a 40 year dry spell.

Let´s start a discussion... Or can´t you american people really discuss with poor third world people?

We do all the time. But all you ever want to discuss is Marxism.

34 posted on 09/11/2003 11:00:00 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake
DARN IT!!!! I was just going to reply to leandro and I seem to have misplaced him. Hmmmmm.
35 posted on 09/11/2003 12:03:14 PM PDT by mommadooo3
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36 posted on 09/11/2003 2:42:35 PM PDT by Cindy
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