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How we trained al-Qa’eda
The Spectator UK ^ | 6 september 2003 | Brendan O’Neill

Posted on 09/12/2003 3:22:30 AM PDT by konijn

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To: Publius6961
Some interesting reading:


http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu/politics/papers/Islamic_Declaration_1990_reprint_English.pdf
21 posted on 09/12/2003 8:35:25 AM PDT by konijn
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To: Hoplite
In addition to The Economist I also read The Spectator.
22 posted on 09/12/2003 10:36:38 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Peach; konijn; Publius6961; Doctor13; DTA; *balkans
And useful idiots like yourself, Peach is exactly why 9/11 was able to happen on America.

Your flawed historical analogy proves your flawed morality. You and those Americans like you are a danger to America if they ever get to power, as was proven with the Clinton administration.

It has been an honor serving in the Balkans front with all of you. We were among the first.

Richard Holbrooke, ...later admitted that the arrival of the mujahedin was a ‘pact with the devil’

You mean like in the Anti-Christ?

23 posted on 09/12/2003 10:43:24 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Peach
No one is blaming the US for aligning with the mujahids against the USSR during the 80's. We did what we thought we had to do there, there was no way we could possibly have known about the Taliban. But that's besides the point. The point of the article is that there was no reason to ally with the mujahids in Bosnia in 1992-95.

24 posted on 09/12/2003 4:05:30 PM PDT by Seselj
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To: konijn
Also posted here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/981426/posts

25 posted on 09/12/2003 5:47:42 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: konijn
Your time to run has indeed long past.

You are, of course, free to hold and voice whatever opinion you choose, but posting erroneous and misleading articles and expecting no negative feedback is just asking a little much, don't you think?

The author's central thesis matches Serb-nationalist revisionist thinking on the matter of Bosnia's Muslims - back in 1992 Serbia went to war with Bosnia's Muslims on the basis of their being 'Turks', not the boogeymen who would emerge from Afghanistan later.

Furthermore, the author mistakenly attributes Al Quaeda's 'internationalization' to the Bosnian conflict - rather than attibuting the Al Qaeada presence in Bosnia to Al Quaeda's organizational aim of extending it's reach globally during the early 1990's - in addition to Bosnia, Al Quaeda was active in Somalia, and was working on setting up operatives in America itself while operating itself out of the Sudan, rather than Afghanistan.

Getting back to the 4,000 Mujahadeen in Bosnia, they mostly came from organizations allied with Iran - and it is conveniently forgotten that Iran and Al Quaeda have never had congruent views of Muslim Fundamentalism - each sees itself at the head of the purported Muslim Caliphate to be emplaced after the revolution is complete, and the two fought each other by proxy in Afghanistan to the detriment of the Afghanis caught between them.

Al Quaeda used Bosnia more like it uses Palestine - they could give a rat's ass about the people there, but will happily set up charity organizations in order to gather funds for non-charitable purposes and send small groups of personnel to make recruiting materials to gather men for the main effort elsewhere.

The main point with the Bosnian conflict, however, is that Amercia was fighting terrorism - and the terrorism in that instance was directed from Belgrade.

Now I realize that this goes against the conventional wisdom on these threads, but the subscribers to the conventional wisdom on these threads tend to support an agenda more in line with foreign interests (Serbia first) than on in line with our interests: law and order and accountable governance rather than paramilitary states who make up their own rules as they go along.

Rant away, Konjin. You say my time has past, but I will outlive the Republika Srpska and everything Milosevic inflicted upon this world. History is rendering a different verdict than you are.

26 posted on 09/13/2003 12:14:34 PM PDT by Hoplite
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history sure is rendering a different verdict..........isn't it ?
27 posted on 03/06/2004 7:14:09 PM PST by ehoxha
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To: Destro
bump
28 posted on 03/19/2004 1:06:25 PM PST by JohnGalt (If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied. -- R. Kipling)
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To: konijn
Great piece.

Real history is often dirty, with mixed motives, allies of convenience and unintended consequences.

Unless we understand the intertwined history of the West and the Jihadis, we will not destroy those those whom we encouraged and virtually created in the past.
29 posted on 03/19/2004 1:09:59 PM PST by swarthyguy
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