The Real Reason Conservatives are So Vehemently Opposed to the Candidacy of Arnold Schwarzenegger

www.allsouthwest.com ^ | Eric Dondero

[A Broken Glass Republican]

Bush cannot win without the votes of the social conservatives that Arnold and the Log Cabin Republicans despise.

I don't know any of them that "Despise" socal conservatives. Social conservatives only use that word again, and again, and again, and again, because it's obviously the way they feel about them. They can't understand what it's like to NOT feel that way.

[churchillbuff]

"libertarian David Stockman " ?????? Didn't Stockman get canned for advocating higher taxes?

[Princeliberty]

Yes same guy and he was even pro-life too so
not the same as Arnold at all!

[Princeliberty]

Yes and Stockman later attacked conservatives for
being too eager to cut the size of Government!

[Princeliberty]

Plus, everytime one of these social liberal
economic conservative types gets elected they
ALWAYS raise taxes and increase talke Wilson,
Taft, Weld etc..

[pointsal]

twit

[Bernard Marx]

#30. Excellent post!

[Sci Fi Guy]

Jesse Ventura was a fiscal conservative and social moderate. (Healthy dose of personal responsibility.) Big difference between social liberal (victimhood) and social moderate (personal responsibility).

You are being extremely kind to Jesse. Jesse was all over the place. But as Joe "mayor of garage logic" said Jesse was for Jesse. He was only conservative things that would personally benefit him. (Like a flat fee for vehicle registration, because Jesse felt that it was unfair that he have to pay a much higher fee just because he drove an expensive sports car.) But he was liberal on the social issues, and for a lot of big spending programs, like light rail.

[hosepipe]

Article written by a very confused individual....
about a very confused guy....

[George W. Bush]

The author is right. I've said the same many times. A Schw governorship is a threat to social conservatives, constitutaional conservatives, Second Amendment advocates, religious conservatives, anti-Green pro-business conservatives.

[NormsRevenge]

But other than that, he'd make a helluva photo op Gub. ;-)

I wonder if he would just work out of his home in SoCal or..

[bluelowrider57]

Liberal writing a liberal article.

[wgeorge2001]

And they wish to push real conservatives
down to the bottom of the party and just tell
them they should behave like blacks do toward
Democrats and just go along with this garbage
no matter how badly they get done.


I think you are correct.

[Kevin Curry]

Social liberalism is destructive of the family. It creates the gangs of fatherless young men and single mothers in inner cities with their attendant high social welfare costs. Social liberalism teaches that drug use is no one's business and drug addiction is no one's fault. The horrific attendant external costs in crime and health care are shoved onto the taxpayer.

Social liberalism preaches that everyone is "entitled" to government largesse from education, to housing, to prescription drugs including costly AIDS cocktails that allows gays to engage in promiscuous high-risk sodomy secure in the thought that the taxpayer will pay to find a cure. Social liberalism makes no distinction between citizens and illegal aliens, insisting that all are "entitled" to government handouts.

Social liberalism is the ideology of the nanny state. Schwarzennger captures its essence thusly: "We want to make sure the mothers have affordable day care. We want to make sure the older folks have their care that they need. That everything has to be provided for the people.

Open your eyes and count the costs. Social liberalism teaches that you can be as nasty, lazy, self-indulgent, or irresponsible as you wanna be, because government will be there to bail you out and clean up after you.

[Incorrigible]

[Incorrigible]

[viaveritasvita]

>>"It may be dividing Republicans in California, but there's no spillover anywhere else."<<


Would you clarify this statement. Do you mean there's no spillover of division in the Republican party due to the Kalifornicate circus/recall? My belief is that the rift is growing among Republicans due to RINOism, altho no where near the KA degree yet.

There is certainly a huge spillover of the toxic ideology coming out of socialist, immoral KA.

[viaveritasvita]

>>"Open your eyes and count the costs. Social liberalism teaches that you can be as nasty, lazy, self-indulgent, or irresponsible as you wanna be, because government will be there to bail you out and clean up after you."<<


Social liberalism is a disease!

[InterceptPoint]

Kevin: There is very little point in arguing with you since I agree with almost everything you say. Given that, I am still going to vote for Arnie as the lesser of two evils.

In fact, you really can't be socially liberal in the way you define it and fiscally conservative. It just doesn't work. There isn't enough money in the world to satify the liberals thirst for "doing good". So for me a Social Liberal is just a big spender. If Arnie turns out to be that kind of Liberal then God help us. Time to move to Nevada.

Also note that the point of the article is that Arnie is a closet Libertarian (not a Liberal or Social Liberal). Now Libertarians are not Liberals even though they do agree on some points relative to individual freedom. I think the Libertarian beliefs are based on the principle of maximizing individual freedom and Liberals are just practicing their idea of good politics (e.g. don't legislate gay behaviour and you will secure their vote). The difference between them in a nutshell: Liberals want big Government and Libertarians want a very small, just defend the country, Government.

I could live with a lot of what the Libertarians preach. I suspect you couldn't.