Gay dads want their son to grow up straight

The Sun-Herald, Sydney, Australia ^ | September 14, 2003 | By Candace Sutton and Larry Schwartz

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...I thought this was an unusual post by CC, whose comments on other matters are usually very well-reasoned. I don't know what happened this time...

...perhaps because CC has a family member or friend who is gay, and is thereby (creditably) protective of that person? But this thread's about gay adoption and baby selling, not the rights and wrongs of homosexuality. Cheers, By

[GreatOne]

Now, now - we can't think things like that, or you'll be arrested for a hate crime. (But you're exactly right, and my thought about your friend as well).

[F.J. Mitchell]

Just for the record, Kittycat-rejecting the premise that homosexuals are born that way and cannot change their perversion or resist the cravings thereof, does not make us homophobes or haters of homosexuals. In reality we are the best hope these people have. Their worst enemnies, are the self righteous creatures who cater to their weaknesses and delusions and by doing so, deny them any hope of escape from their self designed hell on earth. Loving friends offer hope for the seemingly hopeless and never give up and write them off as a lost cause.

Medical Science has never given up on the other mental and physical conditions that bedevil mortals and have found cures or treatment for conditions that by comparison were far more hopeless than the sickness that ails homosexuals. If we had given up on Polio, humanity would not be concerned about over populating the earth, but finding un-paralized care givers among the smidgen of humanity that remained. Just because the disease of homosexuality feels estactically good to many of those afflicted, does not make it any less an illness, nor an incurable malady that cannot be fixed.

When homosexuality has been eradicated from the earth by healing the sufferers thereof, they will owe a debt of gratitude to us who are called homophobes and an apology from the ilk of yourself Mr. Kitty.

[bitcon]

That doesn't make you a bad parent. Bringing a child in to the world with the intention not to give it contact with a mother, biological or not, is esentially cruelty. Meaning that if your going to have a child or adopt a child you need to have both a mother and father there to raise the child not just be a sperm or egg donor.

[narses]

Ping.

[wardaddy]

I guess I'd better prepare my opus then...

[maxwell]

Most emphatically not a friend-- though related to a dear friend of mine.

Yep, I know my gut reaction was most intolerant. It was the most obvious to me, though. As a conservative (no matter what tpaine says, nyuk nyuk), I can't bring myself to "excuse" what this teen did based on upbringing: I have a fundamental horror of that type of defense. However, that being said: the woman is not without the proverbial blood on her hands, as far as the molestees go. The teen's actions point to deepseated disturbance, and a good bet would be that these disturbances stem from the childhood home life...

[and the horse you rode in on]

That doesn't make you a bad parent. Bringing a child in to the world with the intention not to give it contact with a mother, biological or not, is esentially cruelty. Meaning that if your going to have a child or adopt a child you need to have both a mother and father there to raise the child not just be a sperm or egg donor.

You can't really be saying that ones intentions are more important than the results, can you?
That sounds like something Bill Clinton would say.

[OldPossum]

My comments about CC's views were referring to baby selling and gay adoption. I simply disagree with CC, believing that every child deserves a complete family unit, which to me consists of a mother and father.

[Trust but Verify]

I would compare it to being a shoplifter...

That's your opinion. And you are certainly entitled to it, inane as it is.

[Texas Eagle]

That's your opinion. And you are certainly entitled to it, inane as it is.

Thank you. That's mighty white of you.

RELAX! It's just a saying!

Hee hee heeeee.....I wonder if it is possible to give someone an aneurism?

[bitcon]

The results are important. Sometimes you don't have control over the result. As much as you try your kids could turn out to be drug addicted criminals. Intentionally depriving your child of something as important as a mother or father only hurts your chances of having a good and productive kid. It's like socialists, they have great intentions but they go about it all wrong and they need to realize that. These "parents" have great intentions but a child needs the love of a mother and father not 2 fathers or 2 mothers.

[Trust but Verify]

I wonder if it is possible to give someone an aneurism?

You sure are filled with some hateful thoughts, aren't you? How Christian.

[Republican Wildcat]

One would think the fact they have to go to such extraordinary means to have a child would indicate tho them that their behavior is not natural.

Beyond that, there is something especially wrong with someone who intentionally deprives a child of a mother and a father.

[Texas Eagle]

You sure are filled with some hateful thoughts, aren't you? How Christian.

LOL ! ! ! My, how I love thin-skinned people.

[Texas Eagle]

One would think the fact they have to go to such extraordinary means to have a child would indicate tho them that their behavior is not natural.

LOL ! ! ! I love it ! ! ! "Hey, man, I don't know why we can't get pregnant. Are you sure you're ovulating? Maybe if we tried a different position."

Weee hee hee hee heeeeeeeeeee!

[Trust but Verify]

Everything you've posted is LOL! A regular comedian you are. BTW, it's aneurysm.

[Texas Eagle]

Everything you've posted is LOL! A regular comedian you are.

Hey, what can I say? Unlike some people (I won't mention any names), I didn't have my funny bone violently sucked out moments before registering on FR.

BTW, it's aneurysm.

Oh, yeah. My bad.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Some straight parents may "get it so horribly wrong," but ALL gay parents are raising a child in an unhealthy, immoral and destructive environment.

Gay adoption is child abuse, sanctioned by the state.

[F.J. Mitchell]

Unless of course the second mother and father are loving step parents.