Gay dads want their son to grow up straight

The Sun-Herald, Sydney, Australia ^ | September 14, 2003 | By Candace Sutton and Larry Schwartz

[Cobra64]

"... am so proud his daddies will get to take care of him and raise him," she says.

"his daddies"? These people are sickos.

To the schoolteacher, "Hello Mrs. Snow, I'd like you to meet my Daddies." /sarcasm. But, true.

[Texas Eagle]

Gay dads want their son to grow up straight

SURRRRRRRRRE they do!

[BillyBoy]

...and straight Dads want their kids to grow up gay too! Why not? Makes as much sense.

[SpyGuy]

the men used a California-based surrogacy and egg donation firm, Growing Generations, which is dedicated to the gay and lesbian community.

It's the end of the world as we know it...

[ChemistCat]

I saw this story yesterday. I'm not a reflexive homophobe as so many FReepers are (some with good reason, some apparently just out of joy that there is one group remaining they can hate without guilt.) Mostly I am very glad I don't have that particular temptation; mine are enough to cope with. Can I throw stones? Have I done so much better? Don't know, can't guess; hope so, but doubt so. If someone is gay and makes a stable family, maybe they are doing the best they can, spiritually and morally. I find promiscuous gay lifestyles far, far more offensive...but worse than promiscuous straight ones? No, not much. And from the proliferation of internet porn it is obvious that gays really don't have straights beat in the perversion department.

I wish these two men well and hope they are good parents. Certainly most straight parents don't seem to get it right any more, and many get it so horribly wrong. It seems that they are starting with one terrible handicap that will make everything harder--mostly on the kid, not them.

[Trust but Verify]

Why would they want them to be gay, so people like you can sneer at them and treat them as sub-humans all their lives?

[GreatOne]

If they want their kids to be straight, then don't adopt them. People who engage in homosexual activity (don't call them "gay" like it's a pronoun) wanting to adopt children is the height of their selfishness. Sorry folks, you engage in abnormal behavior for your developmental behavioral disorder, and need counseling, not raising kids, to get you back to normalcy. Absolutely sickening.

[Wormwood]

Life is a little more difficult for perverts.

Always has been.

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

Exactly. Who on earth would choose to be gay?

[bitcon]

They can't be good parents. Every child needs a mother and a father and without that the child is being deprived of what is natural and normal.

[bitcon]

Are you saying they have no choice? That they are born gay?

[Byron_the_Aussie]

It's disgusting. I don't know who's more condemnable, the woman who sold her baby or the two gays who bought one as a lifestyle accessory. If they feel such a need to nurture, why not adopt an unwanted child from China? That's not too hard to arrange.

[Texas Eagle]

I saw this story yesterday. I'm not a reflexive homophobe as so many FReepers are

What kind of homophobe are you? A high-horse homophobe?

(some with good reason, some apparently just out of joy that there is one group remaining they can hate without guilt.)

Apparently it's okay to hate homophobes with a clear conscience so there are at least two groups out there that it's okay to hate.

Mostly I am very glad I don't have that particular temptation;

Mmm-hmm.

mine are enough to cope with.

You ever thought about exercising SELF-CONTROL?

Can I throw stones?

Yes. As long as you don't throw like a girl.

Have I done so much better? Don't know, can't guess; hope so, but doubt so.

Well, there's one way to find out. Let a lesbian couple adopt one of your daughters and then see how they each turn out 20 years from now.

If someone is gay and makes a stable family, maybe they are doing the best they can, spiritually and morally.

On the other hand, maybe you're just too chicken to stand up for what's right.

I find promiscuous gay lifestyles far, far more offensive...but worse than promiscuous straight ones? No, not much. And from the proliferation of internet porn it is obvious that gays really don't have straights beat in the perversion department.

At least you recognize that people who engage in homosexual acts are perverted. Or do you? You seem to go both ways.

I wish these two men well and hope they are good parents.

It's not about the men. It's about the kid.

Certainly most straight parents don't seem to get it right any more, and many get it so horribly wrong.

Yeah? But then, you wouldn't want to push your definition of what's "right" on others would you?

It seems that they are starting with one terrible handicap that will make everything harder--mostly on the kid, not them.

FINALLY! A tiny pinhole of light getting through that muddled brainwashed head of yours.

[george wythe]

The Brits did it first.

A New Kind of Family
Wednesday August 13, 2003

"We are pregnant," announces Barrie, a proud father-to-be, who looks with uncertainty at his partner of 15 years. "The baby is due on August 19." They had agreed to keep the baby's name secret for the time being but, like most expectant fathers, he can barely contain himself. Tony smiles gently and nods at him. "We are going to call him Orlando," Barrie squeals. But these are no ordinary parents; these are the Drewitt-Barlows - and there is not a bump or stretchmark between them.

Almost four years ago, Tony and Barrie Drewitt-Barlow made history. They were the nation's first openly gay surrogate baby parents, and the first men to be jointly listed on a birth certificate, after they won a legal battle in the US, where the children were born. Between them the couple fertilised 24 eggs that had been harvested from egg donor Tracie Matthews, and two embryos were carried to term by the birth mother, Rosalind Bellamy: a sexless ménage à quatre that resulted in the births of twins Aspen and Saffron Drewitt-Barlow.

For all the costly procedures, press intrusion, criticism, battles with the Home Office and even kidnap threats, they enjoyed parenthood enough the first time round to try again. This time they have used eggs from the original harvesting, but Orlando will have a different birth mother because Bellamy talked to the tabloids.

Both being men, the odds were stacked against the Drewitt-Barlows becoming parents together. They explored the adoption route, which was barred to them because they were a gay couple. But rather than crush their will, rejection spurred them forwards. "When I was told I wasn't fit to adopt, the determination it gave me to have kids... " says Barrie, his voice trailing away in anger.

The Drewitt-Barlows are pregnant with contradictions: part social experiment, part frontiersmen, and part future-family, but in so many ways a deeply traditional unit. Says Tony: "The best thing is when the kids throw their arms around you and say, 'Dad, I really love you,' and they give you a big kiss. It's the most amazing, indescribable thing."



Twins Aspen (left) and Saffron Drewitt-Barlow cuddle with surrogate mother Rosalind Bellamy in California Dec. 10, 1999.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...I'm not a reflexive homophobe as so many FReepers are (some with good reason, some apparently just out of joy that there is one group remaining they can hate without guilt.).....

If only you could be as assertively judgmental of the war on our culture, as you are on your fellow Freepers, amigo. It's no wonder we've sunk to where we are today when even conservatives are too tolerant (in the full, PC sense of the word) to say 'enough!'

[Texas Eagle]

Why would they want them to be gay, so people like you can sneer at them and treat them as sub-humans all their lives?Hmmmmmm.....interesting. Are you not sneering at me?

[Texas Eagle]

Who on earth would choose to be gay?

Well, for starters. Tony Wood, 40 and Lee Matthews, 34.

[F.J. Mitchell]

If these perverts want their sons to grow up straight, the sonovabitches should set the example. If they are too twisted to do that, they are too twisted to be trusted alone with potential victems.

[Paul Atreides]

I saw this story yesterday. I'm not a reflexive homophobe as so many FReepers are (some with good reason, some apparently just out of joy that there is one group remaining they can hate without guilt.)

Your perfection knows no bounds, does it?