[nickcarraway]

France is a lay state

Interesting, considering they own all the churches, and the Church can only use such churches by permission.

[sal002a]

Finally...Chirac acting like the conservative he is...

[concerned about politics]

Some people say the rise of a liberal extremist world leader from the EU is impossable.
They say a man, a liar but good spinner, especially a man who appoints himself a leader without being elected, sort of like Clinton in the EU, could never outlaw religion. He could never get the people in Europe to follow him by his speeches alone.
They say he could never force the masseses to accept a computer chip in their right hand or forehead to share the wealth and create a false peace in the world.
They say a man cannot be considered a messiah by his followers. He's just a man.
They say a book that tells of this man- an old fiction novel, a mythical story, and the rise of a man such as this- an anti-Christ type leader, could never happen.
They tell us not to believe it. They say just follow them. They say there is nothing to be concerned about.

[Bogey78O]

France is a country that thinks it's religious enough.

That makes Jesus angry and when Jesus get's angry...

[Genesis defender]

I wonder how French textbooks treat Charles Martel. They probably criticize him for stopping the spread of such a "peaceful" religion.

[Wings-n-Wind]

This may prove the unraveling of the EU... Italy in particular, and Spain and Poland in all likelihood will politely insist... and will not "fold" on this issue.

Humble opinion....

[Noachian]

Why don't they just follow the American Constitution and insert a clause that reads: Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or the free exercise thereof. Then they just let everyone practice whatever religion they want and the government stays out of it.

That clause worked perfectly here in America until the Supreme Court's bias against religion turned the High Court into an advocate for secularism.

[RoseofTexas]

HA! Now it makes sense why the evvvvvvvilll frogs are frying over there! DON'T MESS WITH GOD! ;)

[Savage Beast]

France will be an Islamic theocracy before long. They're thinking ahead.

[The Great RJ]

The Pope should threaten to send his Swiss Guards to Paris. I'm sure the French would then quickly capitulate.

[Noachian]

Does anyone know why America has only one UN representative(even though it has fifty states), and the EU has one representative for each of the countries that make up the EU?

If the EU wants to be one European state shouldn't it get just one vote like America does?

Or, maybe America should get fifty representatives at the UN.

[TopQuark]

the preamble of the draft treaty establishing the Constitution for Europe - produced by the European Convention in June - has resisted any reference to Christianity.

I am Jewish, and I cannot even convey fully how outraged I am at this fascist arrogance.

The cathedrals and other marvels of architecture, the magnificent art, the music of Bach and Handel --- what inspired them if not Christianity? To deny this is simply outrageous.

They were not even asked to say that Christianity plays a significant role now. They were asked to acknowledge in the constitution, to wit, "the role that Christianity played in the history of Europe." It is in this context that Enlightenment is mentioned.

Manipulation of facts is what makes something propaganda. This denial of the fundamental role of Christianity in the formation and development of European nations and states qualifies as such. That is why I find it justifiable to call it fascist propaganda.