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Why America Still Can't Find Osama bin Laden
The New York Times ^ | September 14, 2003 | DAVID ROHDE

Posted on 09/14/2003 3:32:09 PM PDT by sarcasm

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan -- The scene was clearly intended to vex Americans. On the eve of the second anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, Osama bin Laden flickered across the world's television screens casually strolling down a boulder-strewn hillside. He looked calm, peaceful and, worst of all, safe.

While it is unclear when the tape was made, the place where Mr. bin Laden is probably hiding today is somewhere along the rugged 1,500-mile Pakistan-Afghanistan border, American and Pakistani officials say. Autonomous tribal areas on the Pakistani side, are generally thought to be safer for him.

A midlevel Pakistani intelligence official involved in the hunt for militants believes that dozens of Arabs, perhaps including Mr. bin Laden, are hiding in Waziristan, the most inaccessible of the half-dozen autonomous tribal areas on the Pakistani side of the border. He said the reason the Arabs have not been caught is simple: the local populace reveres them.

"Everybody knows them," the official said. "Everybody supports them."

Simply put, people are eagerly helping him because they still accept his view of the world.

"They don't see that as a crime or a sin" said Talat Masood, an analyst and retired Pakistani army general. "They don't see anything wrong with it."

Pakistani officials say they have little control of the border area, which deeply conservative ethnic Pashtun tribes have been allowed to rule for centuries. Since December 2001, Pakistani soldiers have been entering the tribal areas for the first time in their country's history, and more than 25,000 troops are now there.

In conversations, leaders in the tribal areas passionately insist that the Sept. 11 attacks never happened. Or if they did, they were an American and Israeli conspiracy to defame Islam and create a pretext for American global domination. Jews, they often insist, control America.

Those beliefs come from what continues to be one of Islamic militancy's most effective weapons: sophisticated propaganda. Jihadi Web sites, sermons in hardline mosques, magazines published by militant organizations and large parts of Pakistan's Urdu language press continue use a mix of fact and utter lies to portray the United States as a threat to all that is good to mankind.

The current issue of one magazine, "The Crescent," is typical. The monthly is published by a new militant outfit headed by the former leader of Harakat-ul-Mujahadin, or the Movement of Islamic Fighters, which was declared a terrorist organization by the United States. That group was banned but survived simply by changing its name to Jamiat-ul-Ansar, or Party of the Volunteers.

An article titled "When America Was Struck by Al Qaeda's Lightning" attributes the recent East Coast power outage to Mr. bin Laden. Another article says that "international Jewish companies" were secretly placing pig fat, a substance Muslims are barred from consuming, in Pepsi and Colgate-Palmolive toothpaste and all brands of lipstick. (It does not mention that Jews, who use those products too, are also forbidden to consume pork.)

"Crusaders, Jews and Hindus are now united and have come forward to wipe out the Islamic Ummah," a chart detailing the state of "The Bleeding Muslim World" warns, referring to the Muslim community. "The infidels are using the pretext of ending terrorism to achieve their nefarious designs."

Today, by many measures, Islamic radicalism appears to be stronger in western Pakistan than it is in neighboring Afghanistan. Pakistani religious parties swept elections in the area last fall. A proposal to regulate and reform religious schools, known as madrassas, has stalled.

"The madrassas are full," said Samina Ahmed, an analyst with the International Crisis Group, a conflict-prevention organization.

American advertisements show Muslims living happily in the United States, but this has failed to decrease anger, according to public opinion polls. Western diplomats respond that whatever tactics the United States uses will be criticized, but note that while anti-Americanism is widespread in Pakistan, it has so far proved not deep enough to bring widespread upheaval.

In recent months, though, some Pakistani military and police officials have expressed reservations about their role in the American campaign. For example, a brigadier general who spoke on condition of anonymity said Pashtun Taliban fighters are waging a legitimate battle against a government in Kabul where Pashtuns are marginalized. In Quetta, a city in southwestern Pakistan, Afghan refugees said teachers in madrassas and members of hardline religious parties urge young men to join the new Taliban insurgency. Taliban flags fly over some neighborhoods, and young men in black turbans openly declare themselves as former Taliban fighters to visitors.

As dusk arrived in the city last Saturday and the call to prayer sounded from local mosques, a young Afghan madrassa student in a turban demanded that a visiting American leave the area. As the foreigner drove away, a young boy spat in his face.

That depth of feeling, some Pakistanis note, is what makes Osama bin Laden so difficult to catch


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2ndanniversary; afghanistan; alqaeda; binladen; obl; pakistan
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1 posted on 09/14/2003 3:32:09 PM PDT by sarcasm
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Why America Still Can't Find Osama bin Laden

umm...because he's buried under 5,000 tons of rubble?
2 posted on 09/14/2003 3:39:44 PM PDT by polemikos
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said Pashtun Taliban fighters are waging a legitimate battle against a government in Kabul where Pashtuns are marginalized.

Sour grapes from the Pashtuns. They used to be some of the top dogs. I'm sure anything less than what they had is marginalization to them.

Tough.

Prairie

3 posted on 09/14/2003 3:40:57 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Brought to you by The American Democratic Party, also known as Al Qaeda, Western Division.)
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To: polemikos
umm...because he's buried under 5,000 tons of rubble?

Or he's vapor.

4 posted on 09/14/2003 3:41:36 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: sarcasm
I believe that old OBL is dead and has been for many months. They'll drag is body out of the freezer either late summer or early fall of '04.

Richard W.

5 posted on 09/14/2003 3:42:18 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: sarcasm
Yes, Osama juice is very hard to find under tons of rocks and rubble...oh well...
6 posted on 09/14/2003 3:42:35 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: arete
The article gives some interesting insights into the mindset of many Pakistanis.
7 posted on 09/14/2003 3:44:48 PM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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"Why America Still Can't Find Osama bin Laden?"

Because Osama is "pushing up poppies" in Afghanistan.

8 posted on 09/14/2003 3:45:03 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: sarcasm
Frankly, I find this article the most nauseous load of garbage ever posted on FR. There is not one scintilla of evidence that OBL is alive, yet the author finds his champions in the most primitive, the most antedeluvian spot on earth. And he is so happy that he can find kindred souls there. He is the sort of individual who makes it a rule to celbrate Hitler's birthday.
9 posted on 09/14/2003 3:45:06 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: sarcasm
And speaking of mindset, I think it's time the U.S. seriously engages in some provocative and convincing PRO-America media for these people, as well as the entire Middle East and especially Iraq.

It's time we counter all that anti-American crap those radical maniacs produce!
10 posted on 09/14/2003 3:48:52 PM PDT by Humidston (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
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To: sarcasm
"He's not dead, he's just pinin' for the fiords."

Finally.
11 posted on 09/14/2003 3:48:52 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: sarcasm
He's dead, Jim.
12 posted on 09/14/2003 3:48:53 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: sarcasm
He's dead, Jim.

He's an ex-parrot.
13 posted on 09/14/2003 3:50:28 PM PDT by anymouse
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Why America Still Can't Find Osama bin Laden...

Simple solution. If his body-parts have been broken down to molecules or atomic structure, we do not have the technology to bring this evidence to the UN, the French, or the Germans, or.. the democrat party in the United States of America. The ONLY country doing the heavy lifting for world peace. (If Stainman were in office, he would re-word the word peace to read as "I wanna bang the world "piece"

14 posted on 09/14/2003 3:57:33 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: gaspar
I agree. This area sounds like a good place to dispose of some of our obsolete nukes, especially if this reporter is still there?
15 posted on 09/14/2003 3:57:59 PM PDT by oldmanlegg
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To: sarcasm
Why America Still Can't Find Osama bin Laden...

Simple solution. If his body-parts have been broken down to molecules or atomic structure, we do not have the technology to bring this evidence to the UN, the French, or the Germans, or.. the democrat party in the United States of America. The ONLY country doing the heavy lifting for world peace. (If Stainman were in office, he would re-word the word peace to read as "I wanna bang the world "piece"

16 posted on 09/14/2003 3:58:23 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: sarcasm
The article gives some interesting insights into the mindset of many Pakistanis.

Yes, but it isn't isolated to the Paks. I sure that much of the anti-American sentiment has now been confirmed to them by our military interventions in the ME.

Richard W.

17 posted on 09/14/2003 3:59:29 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: sarcasm
It is important to understand just who Rohde is, and why he represents the New York Times. Concerning Iraq, he wronte on 22 June 2003 in the NYTimes:

"The United States isn't seen as a cultivator of democracy in Iraq. It is seen as a military occupier that supports democracy and free speech when they serve its interests."

Now you know both Rohde and the NYTimes point of view. Understand that Rohde continues in the long line of Duranty, Matthews and Kinzer, NYTimes journalists all who despised the USA.

I have argued for years that FR should have a journalists Hall of Shame. Particularly defeatist, proto-liberal and juvenile columns should be entered and retained for posterity. There should be an FR sidebar that leads to journalists, and to their particularly egregious scribblings. History would consider it a favor.
18 posted on 09/14/2003 3:59:30 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: polemikos
If he was alive and not under 5,000 lbs of rubble, you would have seen a video, but the best they can do is two years old. Can you say disco.
19 posted on 09/14/2003 4:06:08 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: sarcasm
The scene was clearly intended to vex Americans.

And yet, it failed miserably. Another miscalculation on the part of Al Qaeda...just like they thought we'd fold on 9/11.

20 posted on 09/14/2003 4:08:58 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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