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First, the Saturday People (Kill the Jews First, Then the Christians)
Israel National News (Arutz 7) ^ | Sept. 15, 2003 | Jack Engelhard

Posted on 09/15/2003 5:20:43 PM PDT by Alouette

How do you confine a billion people who have one thing - murder - in mind? Is there a jail big enough? Is there a fence long enough?

Or should the rest of us bolt our doors and hide under the covers?

As President Bush protests too much about their "peaceful religion," the New York Post, in its editorial upon the second anniversary of 9/11, tells it straight: "Much of Islam, with its billion plus adherents, and even many in the West — in countries like France and Germany – despise America, its freedoms, and particularly its success."

Ditto Israel, except that Israel comes first. As they say in their sermons – "First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people."

Bush believes he has the answer. He is sending in 87 billion dollars to find Thomas Jefferson in that seventh century feud-crazed swamp that is Iraq. Talk about finding a needle in a haystack.

So now we sit back and wait for Iraq to become a light unto the nations, along with the 21 other backwater regimes that make up part of the Arab world.

How can I disagree with two men who are counted among our leading intellectuals? But I do. Both Daniel Pipes and Bernard-Henri Levy say that Fanatical Islam is the problem. Moderate Islam is the answer. I hope they're right. But I am not so sure. For all I know, it was "moderate" Islam that gave us 9/11, and it is moderate Islam that continues to give Israel 9/11 every single day.

Fanatical Islam hasn't yet been heard from.

Those who think it's all about Israel are indeed hiding under the covers. As they slumber, another mosque grows in Brooklyn. (Certainly in Toronto and Paris.)

How can I dispute Rush Limbaugh and his millions of radio listeners? I am in his corner when he is strong on America and Israel. But this time he's wrong. Dead wrong when he defends Bush's 87 billion for Iraq. He says it's for democracy. You cannot buy democracy, Rush, and you cannot sell democracy. You can impose tyranny. You cannot impose liberty.

That is not the Bill of Rights they pray to five times a day in their mosques. Bush is pleased that the schools are running again over there, but does he have a clue as to what (besides hatred for the West) the imams are teaching those kids? By the way, that 87 billion dollar figure is nearly triple the amount the federal government spends on America's schools.

We're dreamers, those of us here in America, and no wonder; we live in a land flowing with milk and money.

Innocents abroad, we believe that the lands of the keffiyeh are ready for Britney Spears and the Monroe Doctrine (take your pick between James and Marilyn).

So we let Israel bleed to death on the proposition that Israel has justice, but no oil.

Israel says Arafat must go and the world rises up in defense of the most prolific killer since Adolph Hitler. Another country, America, is heard from as well.

Maybe it's not the oil. Maybe it's something more sinister that prompts the world, and our State Department, to side with terror, as long as it is "only" Israelis who are dying.

Some dare call it anti-Semitism.

A bride of Israel, Nava, along with her father, David Applebaum, a doctor, a healer, are murdered, and don't touch, you say, don't touch a hair on Arafat's head. Perhaps, Mr. Powell, you were out playing golf with Prince Bandar when this happened. So you are unaware that your State Department spokesman went on TV to warn Israel to keep Arafat safe and snug.

(After Pearl Harbor, would our secretary of state of that time have been golfing with a diplomat from Japan?)

As for you masters of Europe and your treachery; one day your sly anti-Semitism will come back to haunt you. Over the centuries, you have uprooted a thousand synagogues and replaced them with ten thousand mosques. Wait, now, and see what grows from the soil of Ishmael. Your churches are next.

For Sunday is coming, Sunday bloody Sunday.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: christians; islam; israel; muslims; terror
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1 posted on 09/15/2003 5:20:45 PM PDT by Alouette
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To: 1bigdictator; 2sheep; a_witness; adam_az; agrace; American in Israel; Anamensis; anapikoros; ...
FRmail me to be added or removed from this pro-Israel ping list.
2 posted on 09/15/2003 5:23:56 PM PDT by Alouette (The bombing begins in five minutes.)
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To: Alouette
Moderate Islam?

Please, give me a break with the "Orwellian" notions.

3 posted on 09/15/2003 5:30:30 PM PDT by Radix
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To: Alouette
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but they all believe we are the infidel.

Tell me again what the Koran teaches about the Jews and infidels..........

4 posted on 09/15/2003 5:37:09 PM PDT by umgud (gov't has more money than it needs, but never as much as it wants)
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To: Alouette; SJackson; yonif; rdb3; Simcha7; American in Israel; spectacularbid2003; Binyamin; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this
Christian Supporters of Israel ping list,
please FR mail me. ~
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Letter To The President In Support Of Israel ~
5 posted on 09/15/2003 5:40:54 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Alouette

PLOwell: "It is an honor for me to meet the inventor of terrorism
and the actual murderer of crippled Mr. Kl.inghoffer and
so many other Americans.
I will soon run the World Bank and we want your billions of stolen dollars there.
OK? So how many millions do you need to continue ahh... you know ...?"

6 posted on 09/15/2003 5:46:11 PM PDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: Radix
There is no "moderate Islam." There is no "just a little pregnant." Islam is by definition radical. The nature of Islam is such that it cannot exist in a free society. Islam is submission to a system that is the antithesis of freedom. There is no room for anything else in the Islamic society.

Regardless of the amount of money thrown at a democratic society in Iraq, the neighbors will not allow it. The Jihadists will continue to come in from Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria and Turkey until free Iraq collapses in a heap.

Face it. We, the Sunday people and all others that are percieved by them as opposing the will of Big Al, are at war with Islam until the bitter end. They can not and will not co-exist with us or anyone else.

8 posted on 09/15/2003 5:46:12 PM PDT by Adrastus
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To: Radix
There is no "moderate Islam." There is no "just a little pregnant." Islam is by definition radical. The nature of Islam is such that it cannot exist in a free society. Islam is submission to a system that is the antithesis of freedom. There is no room for anything else in the Islamic society.

Regardless of the amount of money thrown at a democratic society in Iraq, the neighbors will not allow it. The Jihadists will continue to come in from Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria and Turkey until free Iraq collapses in a heap.

Face it. We, the Sunday people and all others that are percieved by them as opposing the will of Big Al, are at war with Islam until the bitter end. They can not and will not co-exist with us or anyone else.

9 posted on 09/15/2003 5:46:13 PM PDT by Adrastus
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To: Radix
There is no "moderate Islam." There is no "just a little pregnant." Islam is by definition radical. The nature of Islam is such that it cannot exist in a free society. Islam is submission to a system that is the antithesis of freedom. There is no room for anything else in the Islamic society.

Regardless of the amount of money thrown at a democratic society in Iraq, the neighbors will not allow it. The Jihadists will continue to come in from Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria and Turkey until free Iraq collapses in a heap.

Face it. We, the Sunday people and all others that are percieved by them as opposing the will of Big Al, are at war with Islam until the bitter end. They can not and will not co-exist with us or anyone else.

11 posted on 09/15/2003 5:46:28 PM PDT by Adrastus
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To: Alouette
"Those who want to seize Sunni power and establish an
Islamic
fundamentalist regime in Iraq are no one else than the
Wahabi,
read al-Qa'ida and company. In fact, thousands have
poured
through the borders of Saudi Arabia. Significantly, a
Saudi
Jihadist told al-Jazeera today, that many Islamists
are crossing
the border to fight in Mesopotamia. But you have the
'other'
fundamentalists, i.e. the Shi'ite Islamists. Let's
not forget
that the radical clerics of Iran want an Islamic
Republic in Iraq,
and that Hizbollah of Lebanon has pledged to 'support'
the Iraqis
'if they decide to resist.' If the Wahabi want a
Caliphate
in Baghdad, the Hizbollahi wants a Khumani in Najaf.
Both are
anti-American, both reject any Arab or international
recognition
of the new Iraqi gfovernment. Now read the events
under the light
of this objective alliance: If you wish to keep the
moderate Arabs
out of Iraq, you blow up the Jordanian embassy. If
you want to
threaten the international community you blow up the
UN site.
And if you wish to pressure the Iraqi Shiite into
submission and
fear, you kill their leader. Deja vu? Yes, in
Lebanon back
in 1982. Embassies, multi-national forces and a
President --
Bashir Gemayel -- they were methodically eliminated so
that the
ground would be left open to Hizbollah, all other
terrorists and
eventually the Ba'athist troops of Assad."
--Walid Phares, PhD, Professor of Middle East Studies
at Florida Atlantic University

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12 posted on 09/15/2003 5:55:00 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Alouette
Islamists target Morocco's Jews
13 posted on 09/15/2003 5:56:18 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: Alouette
Gee whiz, what Bush is seeking to do is not that far fetched. Turkey is Muslim, but fairly secular and democratic. It is much less productive of terrorists than other regimes. The Kurds already have the rudiments of a democracy, and their remains are not generally found in craters at suicide bombings. Iraq will be more democratic, productive, and less of a threat to everyone but the shaky despots in the regimes it borders.
14 posted on 09/15/2003 5:57:29 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Adrastus
We, the Sunday people and all others that are percieved by them as opposing the will of Big Al, are at war with Islam until the bitter end,,

Indeed there is a War going on, and that is not a new thing.

The difference b/n the Muslims, and the other protaganists in this War is the fact that, The Muslims have not the promise that they will prevail over all adversity.

Israel will never again be trodden down by the Gentiles.

The church will be the church.

Wise men still seek knowledge. They won't find it on the Internet, or in just any book.

15 posted on 09/15/2003 6:01:33 PM PDT by Radix
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To: Alouette
Step One: The flow of money that fuels the new Muslim imperialism must be halted.

Step Two: Islam must be bombarded by Christian and Jewish messages night and day.

Step Three: Judeao Christian civilization must re capture its roots in spirituality, not secularism.

Step four: Muslims understand one thing - the sword. Give 'em the sword.

Step four: educate ourselves about what Muslim ideology has done in the past and is doing right now this very minute. Then understand that they will continue to do what they are doing to everyone who does not bow to mecca.

President Bush's heroic actions notwithstanding, it is time to confront Islamic ideology resolutely NOW!

16 posted on 09/15/2003 6:05:35 PM PDT by eleni121 (uagmire the 7 Elvi have gotten themselves in.)
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To: Alouette
"We're going to have to fight the bastards sooner or later. Why not let me do it now, while we have the troops here to do it with?!"

-- GEN George S. Patton talking about the Soviet Union to GEN Eisenhower's chief of staff, at a party in Germany just after the German surrender.

17 posted on 09/15/2003 6:09:11 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Alouette
Get a copy of "Jitterbug," by Mike McQuay.
18 posted on 09/15/2003 6:09:57 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Radix
True. They will either bring a certain wisdom with them to the table or they will not have a seat. Wisdom, not a rabid hatred of all others.
19 posted on 09/15/2003 6:10:27 PM PDT by Adrastus
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To: Alouette
Your churches are next.

No, they don't go to their own churches any more. That's why they let the Moslems in. They don't care. Modern Europe is socialism and atheism.

20 posted on 09/15/2003 6:10:27 PM PDT by Nachum
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