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To: BOBTHENAILER; biblewonk
My success, over the last 15 years, is due to acreage acquisition in geologically defined areas, ... It also has a lot to do with having the guts to roll the dice on your own nickle, win or lose.

Still, you're missing (or denying) the point. Those enviros you love to hate have artifically increased the demand for your gas, at the expense of coal. Without that increased demand, your employer wouldn't have acquired the acreage or rolled the dice. I'm sure you know this is true.

Since you are well aware of my antipathy for enviros, I'm curious why you don't have the same

I do share your antipathy for the environuts, as I wrote previously: "You and I can stand in unison in deriding them and their misguided causes." I've only said you owe them some gratitude. That doesn't mean I like them any more than you do.

I'll concede that wind generation is getting closer to being a commercially viable power source,

Wow, that must've hurt. I'm touched. ;O)

If it isn't already, it certainly is fast becoming commercially viable. Just forget about those piddly little antiques in California, please. We'd still be riding the rails cross-country, if people kept pointing to the Wright Flyer as evidence of aviation's shortcomings.

Technological advances are making wind power cheap.

however, due to it's unreliability, it can never stand on its own

Oh, I'm glad you brought that up. If, by "unreliability" you mean the wind isn't always blowing -- that favorite "diss" of the uninformed and anti-anything-that-sounds-like-the-enviros-might-like-it crowd -- I'll counter that all we need is a 21st Century grid, and wind can be every bit as reliable as your gas. The wind is always blowing somewhere and it's certainly viable enough to provide economical power for peak demands.

Just as none of the other sources can.

Wow, that must've hurt, too. ;O) So, it sounds as if your only real beef with wind power is commercial viability. Hey, you're almost on board.

Even if you can't thank a greenie for giving you job security -- and, deep down, you must know they are -- I'm encouraged that it seems you're trying to keep an open mind about wind power. Don't worry, I won't tell your buddies. But, I can't speak for biblewonk. :-)

79 posted on 09/17/2003 12:43:36 PM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible, i.e. WORDS MEAN THINGS)
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To: newgeezer; BOBTHENAILER
It's actually much easier to get someone to believe in wind power than in Jesus.

So I musta been right about the Lutheran thing?

81 posted on 09/17/2003 12:49:53 PM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrisssssssstian)
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To: newgeezer; BOBTHENAILER
"The wind is always blowing somewhere"

The wind doesn't blow... it sucks!!! It's being sucked to the adjacent low pressure area in an effort to be like Hitlery Clinton and equalize everything to the lowest common denominator!!! Thus, it sucks!!!

82 posted on 09/17/2003 12:59:25 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Forget Party Politics... Re-register "decline to state" and become truly Independent!!!)
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To: newgeezer
your employer wouldn't have acquired the acreage or rolled the dice. I'm sure you know this is true.

You're wrong and missed my point totally. First I'm self employed and when I made numerous decisions over the fifteen years I've been doing this, to acquire acreage and drill, gas was around $1.50 to $2.75, depending on which year it was. Enviro policies have only recently been affecting demand and they have NOTHING to do with whether or not a well I drill is a dry hole or successful. Three years ago we drilled several wells when the price was $2.00 and below; they still paid out in less than six months.

Don't worry, I won't tell your buddies.
Wow, that must've hurt. I'm touched. ;O)
Wow, that must've hurt, too. ;O)

I'm sure you think the sarcasm is kinda cute, but it gets real friggin' old for me.

I'll counter that all we need is a 21st Century grid, and wind can be every bit as reliable as your gas. The wind is always blowing somewhere and it's certainly viable enough to provide economical power for peak demands.

When we get one, we'll see.

83 posted on 09/17/2003 1:02:07 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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