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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
A California college professor who grew up in a heavily Hispanic-populated area says there has been a major paradigm shift in the type of immigrants that live in California now.

I think this goes for most immigrants and foreign visitors to California. They're here to make money or bask in our law-respecting republic with all the amenities. Instead of dreaming of becoming Americans, they just want to take what they can from us. From high tech to the farm fields, many of these people hate us and our way of life, but stay for the money and the comfort.

It's time we restrict immigration to those who really want to come here because they love America.

3 posted on 09/16/2003 3:14:46 PM PDT by risk
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To: risk
The BCIS (INS) doesn't make it too easy for such people to get in unfortunatly...Check out my profile..

Matt
4 posted on 09/16/2003 3:22:07 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: risk
I'm afraid your right. Anecdotally speaking, I've had the opportunity to get to know many more immigrants, both legal & otherwise, than the average American and although most are perfectly decent people (as you would expect), too many aren't and very few demonstrate interest in becoming one of 'us'.
6 posted on 09/16/2003 3:23:17 PM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: risk
They also remain detached from the general society because they develop this romanticized image of the hellhole they left in order to get here. Cinco de Mayo celebrations, for example, are a farce. Celebrating the Mexican victory over France! How can one find pride in THAT?! EVERYONE beats the French!...If they were truly interested in becoming US citizens, they would wipe their feet of all things Mexican on their way in.
8 posted on 09/16/2003 3:27:49 PM PDT by My2Cents ("I'm the party pooper..." -- Arnold in "Kindergarten Cop.")
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To: risk
It's time we restrict immigration to those who really want to come here because they love America.

No doubt. I'm tired of hearing from our liberal newspapers how we should welcome these people from the Third World into our country and bend over backwards for them. They also tell us that we should not expect them to learn English or have them give up some of their backwards culture.

The bottom line is they want to install their culture in place of the American culture.

13 posted on 09/16/2003 3:39:59 PM PDT by Missouri (Everything for the Republic, nothing for those who oppose the Republic)
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To: risk
By the way - didn't Bustamonte swear an oath to uphold our government and not TO SUPPORT THE VIOLENT OVERTHROW OF CALIFORNIA?
18 posted on 09/16/2003 3:48:16 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: risk
"Dr. Victor Davis Hanson teaches classics."

What the hell does he know about the dynamics of immigration?

Assimilation takes longer than the period of time that passed between this guy noticing that some people looked and spoke different than he does, and the day he decided to go from a guy teaching "classics" at California State University, to a "scholar" waxing on about immigration.

The first generation immigrant does not assimilate. They (we) learn the language to one degree or another, learn the customs, and how to (almost) "fit" in into the mainstream, but since the mainstream never quite accepts you, it's impossible to actually assimilate!

Assimilation of the kind everyone in FR always talks about comes in degrees as the small children of immigrants grow up, or as they are born here.

It happens, it's inevitable, and the argument that today's immigrants are somehow different than those that came before them is as old as the Republic itself.

"...measures of great Temper are necessary with the Germans: and am not without Apprehensions, that thro' their indiscretion or Ours, or both, great disorders and inconveniences may one day arise among us; Those who come hither are generally of the most ignorant Stupid Sort of their own Nation, and as Ignorance is often attended with Credulity when Knavery would mislead it, and with Suspicion when Honesty would set it right; and as few of the English understand the German Language, and so cannot address them either from the Press or Pulpit, 'tis almost impossible to remove any prejudices they once entertain. Their own Clergy have very little influence over the people; who seem to take an uncommon pleasure in abusing and discharging the Minister on every trivial occasion. Not being used to Liberty, they know not how to make a modest use of it; and as Kolben says of the young Hottentots, that they are not esteemed men till they have shewn their manhood by beating their mothers, so these seem to think themselves not free, till they can feel their liberty in abusing and insulting their Teachers. Thus they are under no restraint of Ecclesiastical Government; They behave, however, submissively enough at present to the Civil Government which I wish they may continue to do: For I remember when they modestly declined intermeddling in our Elections, but now they come in droves, and carry all before them, except in one or two Counties; Few of their children in the Country learn English; they import many Books from Germany; and of the six printing houses in the Province, two are entirely German, two half German half English, and but two entirely English; They have one German News-paper, and one half German. Advertisements intended to be general are now printed in Dutch and English; the Signs in our Streets have inscriptions in both languages, and in some places only German: They begin of late to make all their Bonds nad other legal Writings in their own Language, which (though I think it ought not to be) are allowed good in our Courts, where the German Business so encreases that there is continual need of Interpreters; and I suppose in a few years they will be also necessary in the Assembly, to tell one half of our Legislators what the other half say; In short unless the stream of their importation could be turned from this to other colonies, as you very judiciously propose, they will soon so out number us, that all the advantages we have will not in My Opinion be able to preserve our language, and even our Government will become precarious. " -- Benjamin Franklin

25 posted on 09/16/2003 8:33:14 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ("As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide." - Abraham Lincoln)
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