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Michael Moore endorses Wesley Clark
17.SE.2003 | bullseye1911

Posted on 09/17/2003 3:38:52 AM PDT by bullseye1911

Strange as it seems, Michael Moore wrote a letter encouraging General Clark to run.

September 12, 2003

Dear General Wesley Clark,

I've been meaning to write to you for some time. Two days after the Oscars, when I felt very alone and somewhat frightened by the level of hatred toward me for daring to suggest that we were being led into war for "fictitious reasons," one person stuck his neck out and came to my defense on national television.

And that person was you.

Aaron Brown had just finished interviewing me by satellite on CNN, and I had made a crack about me being "the only non-general allowed on CNN all week." He ended the interview and then turned to you, as you were sitting at the desk with him. He asked you what you thought of this crazy guy, Michael Moore. And, although we were still in Week One of the war, you boldly said that my dissent was necessary and welcome, and you pointed out that I was against Bush and his "policies," not the kids in the service. I sat in Flint with the earpiece still in my ear and I was floored -- a GENERAL standing up for me and, in effect, for all the millions who were opposed to the war but had been bullied into silence.

Since that night, I have spent a lot of time checking you out. And what I've learned about you corresponds to my experience with you back in March. You seem to be a man of integrity. You seem not afraid to speak the truth. I liked your answer when you were asked your position on gun control: "If you are the type of person who likes assault weapons, there is a place for you -- the United States Army. We have them."

In addition to being first in your class at West Point, a four star general from Arkansas, and the former Supreme Commander of NATO -- enough right there that should give pause to any peace-loving person -- I have discovered that...

1. You oppose the Patriot Act and would fight the expansion of its powers.

2. You are firmly pro-choice.

3. You filed an amicus brief with the Supreme Court in support of the University of Michigan's affirmative action case.

4. You would get rid of the Bush tax "cut" and make the rich pay their fair share.

5. You respect the views of our allies and want to work with them and with the rest of the international community.

6. And you oppose war. You have said that war should always be the "last resort" and that it is military men such as yourself who are the most for peace because it is YOU and your soldiers who have to do the dying. You find something unsettling about a commander-in-chief who dons a flight suit and pretends to be Top Gun, a stunt that dishonored those who have died in that flight suit in the service of their country.

General Clark, last night I finally got to meet you in person. I would like to share with others what I said to you privately: You may be the person who can defeat George W. Bush in next year's election.

This is not an endorsement. For me, it's too early for that. I have liked Howard Dean (in spite of his flawed positions in support of some capital punishment, his grade "A" rating from the NRA, and his opposition to cutting the Pentagon budget). And Dennis Kucinich is so committed to all the right stuff. We need candidates in this race who will say the things that need to be said, to push the pathetically lame Democratic Party into have a backbone -- or get out of the way and let us have a REAL second party on the ballot.

But right now, for the sake and survival of our very country, we need someone who is going to get The Job done, period. And that job, no matter whom I speak to across America -- be they leftie Green or conservative Democrat, and even many disgusted Republicans -- EVERYONE is of one mind as to what that job is:

Bush Must Go.

This is war, General, and it's Bush & Co.'s war on us. It's their war on the middle class, the poor, the environment, their war on women and their war against anyone around the world who doesn't accept total American domination. Yes, it's a war -- and we, the people, need a general to beat back those who have abused our Constitution and our basic sense of decency.

The General vs. the Texas Air National Guard deserter! I want to see that debate, and I know who the winner is going to be.

The other night, when you were on Bill Maher's show, he began by reading to you a quote from Howard Dean where he (Dean) tried to run away from the word "liberal." Maher said to you, so, General, do you want to run away from that word? Without missing a beat, you said "No!" and you reminded everyone that America was founded as a "liberal democracy." The audience went wild with applause.

That is what we have needed for a long time on our side -- guts. I am sure there are things you and I don't see eye to eye on, but now is the time for all good people from the far left to the middle of the road to bury the damn hatchet and get together behind someone who is not only good on the issues but can beat George W. Bush. And where I come from in the Midwest, General, I know you are the kind of candidate that the average American will vote for.

Michael Moore likes a general? I never thought I'd write these words. But desperate times call for desperate measures. I want to know more about you. I want your voice heard. I would like to see you in these debates. Then let the chips fall where they may -- and we'll all have a better idea of what to do. If you sit it out, then I think we all know what we are left with.

I am asking everyone I know to send an email to you now to encourage you to run, even if they aren't sure they would vote for you. (Wesley Clark's email address is: info@leadershipforamerica.org). None of us truly know how we will vote five months from now or a year from now. But we do know that this race needs a jolt -- and Bush needs to know that there is one person he won't be able to Dukakisize.

Take the plunge, General Clark. At the very least, the nation needs to hear what you know about what was really behind this invasion of Iraq and your fresh ideas of how we can live in a more peaceful world. Yes, your country needs you to perform one more act of brave service -- to help defeat an enemy from within, at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, an address that used to belong to "we, the people."

Yours,

Michael Moore Lottery # 275, U.S. military draft, 1972 Conscientious Objector applicant mmflint@aol.com


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; democrats; election; general; mikeymooron; president; primary; weasleyclark; wesleyclark; westleyclark
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There' Mikeys' e-mail. anyone wish to thank him for the endorsement?
1 posted on 09/17/2003 3:38:53 AM PDT by bullseye1911
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To: bullseye1911
Two days after the Oscars, when I felt very alone and somewhat frightened by the level of hatred toward me....

Fat pansy.
2 posted on 09/17/2003 3:44:30 AM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Welsh Rabbit
1972 Conscientious Objector applicant

pansy isn't the word I'd use. (this is a family forum.)

3 posted on 09/17/2003 3:45:29 AM PDT by glock rocks
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To: bullseye1911
I've been trying to figure out why Michael Moore endorses a general who almost started WWIII by ordering British troops to attack Russian troops in Kosovo. Here's the answer: Because Bill Clinton likes him. And when Bill Clinton says that he would make a good President, what he means is that he knows how to follow orders.
4 posted on 09/17/2003 3:54:18 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: bullseye1911
Although they are talking the talk, most liberals will never be energized by a military man. They may believe that Clark will bring in Reagan Democrats in the general election, but he'll have trouble in the primarys. Most people, however, will see through this pansy in an army uniform.

In order to energize the base he has to start making noise about lifting the military's don't ask don't tell policy. After that he'll be viewed as legitament among the sodomites who control the party.

5 posted on 09/17/2003 3:54:33 AM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: bullseye1911
Michael Moore: A Wesley! Clark Groupie. That should get the Klinton buttboy the nomination.

I can't wait to see the two embracing on the campaign trail. As Don Imus would say, "You can't make this stuff up!"

6 posted on 09/17/2003 3:55:30 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: bullseye1911
Moore's endorsement should dispel all the imminent assurances that Clark is a moderate.
7 posted on 09/17/2003 4:04:29 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: bullseye1911
Michael Moore is pathetic. This letter reads like a child wrote it--a GENERAL noticed me!!!

In his six points, fatboy ranks abortion #2, like he needs one. In #4, he uses the third person as though he isn't one of the rich who need to pay "their" fair share.

He is a pig and a loser. No offense to pigs intended.

8 posted on 09/17/2003 4:11:11 AM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: bullseye1911
You find something unsettling about a commander-in-chief who dons a flight suit and pretends to be Top Gun, a stunt that dishonored those who have died in that flight suit in the service of their country.


Wasn't Bush a pilot in the National Guard? If so, I know he was in the National Guard but I'm not sure what he did, then how is he pretending to be Top Gun or disrespecting those who have died in that flight suit? (I can only see the photo op part being disrespectful)

I think someones just a little upset knowing that they could never fit in to a flight suit.



Conscientious Objector applicant
Better then draft dodger Bill, though still cowardly.
9 posted on 09/17/2003 4:21:04 AM PDT by bitcon
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Some wonder how people such as Moore could support a military man. The general's most recent campaign was with international forces of U.N. and NATO countries. He's a good soldier. BJ likes hiim, too.

You don't have to have been around at the time but it helps to understand and have it sink in. During the Vietnam war years and ever since to "loathe the military" is understood to mean specifically, the American military fighting for America's interest. American military fighting for the world's peoples' interest is okay. The military of other countries fighting America's interest is best, of course. It's how the liberals feeeeeeeeeeeeeeel. It's what they do.

10 posted on 09/17/2003 4:25:07 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: bitcon
(I can only see the photo op part being disrespectful)

Disrepectful? To who or what?

11 posted on 09/17/2003 4:26:12 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: bullseye1911
If Clark thinks that America was founded as a "liberal democracy" based on a "progressive income tax", then he knows absolutely nothing about American history. Like Hitlery, he's a dangerous, extreme, left-wing ideologue. This is why the Marxist buck-tooth moron, Al Franken, and the America-hating, fat slob commie, Michael Moore, are supporting Clark's candidacy.
12 posted on 09/17/2003 4:30:36 AM PDT by AF68
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To: bullseye1911
This endorsement is worth its weight in LARD.
13 posted on 09/17/2003 4:32:05 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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To: bullseye1911
That only makes perfect sense - Moore and Clark are both nutcases living in a world the rest of us do not recognize.
14 posted on 09/17/2003 4:33:47 AM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: Brilliant
"I've been trying to figure out why Michael Moore endorses a general who almost started WWIII by ordering British troops to attack Russian troops in Kosovo. "
For some reason he got an Oscar ...
15 posted on 09/17/2003 4:34:59 AM PDT by Truth666
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To: bullseye1911
Can Al Franken's endorsement be far behind!
16 posted on 09/17/2003 5:19:30 AM PDT by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
This endorsement is worth its weight in LARD.

The other butter? hehe!

17 posted on 09/17/2003 5:23:43 AM PDT by bullseye1911
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids
Although they are talking the talk, most liberals will never be energized by a military man

I believe you're right, from my observations trolling the "loyal opposition's" web sites. Regards

18 posted on 09/17/2003 6:38:56 AM PDT by bullseye1911
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To: bullseye1911
Michael Moore endorses Wesley Clark

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

The kiss of death.
I love it.

I did check first to see if this was from the Onion...

19 posted on 09/17/2003 6:58:18 AM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Publius6961
The kiss of death. I love it.

Considering where that kiss would come from, death would be preferable. Regards.

20 posted on 09/17/2003 8:24:03 AM PDT by bullseye1911
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