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MUSLIM APOCALYPTIC WRITERS INDICATE FUTURE STRIKES ON NEW YORK AND VATICAN
http://www.spiritdaily.com/muslimapocalyptic.htm ^ | 9/17/03 | spiritdaily.com

Posted on 09/17/2003 10:49:25 AM PDT by Polycarp

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To: fishtank
How 'bout "Charles Martel hammered the barabrian horde at Tours, and all I got was this dumb t-shirt." Or "I'm with Sobeski" with an arrow pointing to the side.
41 posted on 09/17/2003 12:41:47 PM PDT by j.havenfarm ("Stoke of the pen, law of the land. Cool." - Blumenthal, 1997; 9th Circuit, 2003.)
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To: StriperSniper
If there is another terrorist attack on America that kills thousands of Americans, that button will be pushed.

I would change thousands to hundreds or tens, but other than that I'm in favor of the Nuke Mecca approach.

By the way, this reply is worthy of it's own thread in my opinion.

42 posted on 09/17/2003 12:42:24 PM PDT by MrConfettiMan ("Yes! I am a citizen! Now which way to the welfare office?" - Apu, The Simpsons)
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To: Cap'n Crunch; Polycarp; Salvation; Barnacle
There are prophecies by catholic saints who said that the Muslims would invade into Europe and try to destroy the Vatican.


It is the first and the only Mosque in Rome, located at the foot of the hill. It was erected in 1984-93, and designed by Paolo Portoghesi, Vittorio Gigliotti and Sami Monsawi. The mosque, that can hold up to 3000 people and is the largest in Europe, was financed by some 24 Arab countries. There is also a cultural center and library here.

The mosque requested and received permission from the Italian Gov't to erect a crescent moon that rises higher than the cross on the Vatican.

According to Zenit News Agency, In June 2003, the Islamic Cultural Center of Rome ousted the imam from the city's Great Mosque after he urged the faithful in a sermon to "destroy the enemies of Islam."

43 posted on 09/17/2003 12:46:43 PM PDT by NYer (Catholic and living it.)
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To: DooDahhhh
Why don't they do this??

Because Bush believes that Islam is a "Religion of Piece" !!! . Isn't that a total absurdity ??? . Actually, Islam is a religeoi of P-I-E-C-E-S . . . e.g., chopped off hands, feet, fingers, toes, ears, noses, heads, etc., etc., etc. !!!

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44 posted on 09/17/2003 12:56:14 PM PDT by GeekDejure
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To: NYer
Wow! A seaside view! Imagine launching one of these babies out my living room window : )


45 posted on 09/17/2003 1:00:03 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: Salvation
Maria Esperanza (Venezuelan visionary) has forseen something involving Cuba ( in alliance with these terrorists) with missles aimed at NY and Washington.
46 posted on 09/17/2003 1:00:08 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Polycarp
In the perspective of these Muslim writers, "Florida also suffers nuclear explosions of unknown origin and this triggers even more explosions as the American nuclear arsenal in the area detonates."

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

These sandmaggots are great at ranting and raving, but are clueless about simple things like grammar-school physics.

Great glorious civilization my assets!

47 posted on 09/17/2003 1:02:59 PM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Polycarp
So if we drop the Clintons into Mecca will that kill two birds with one stone?
48 posted on 09/17/2003 1:06:55 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Polycarp
I just hope the sandmaggots are not totally insane.

They touch the vatican or let loose a WMD in the US and Mecca, Medina and every other muslim "holy" place will instantly become a permanent and radioactive "hole-y" place.

Guaranteed.

49 posted on 09/17/2003 1:07:28 PM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Polycarp
"Muslim apocalyptic writers indicate that the long-term targets of terrorism will continue to be Washington and New York -- along with the Vatican."

The Muslim version of the "X-Files".

How does one become a "apocalyptic writer"????



50 posted on 09/17/2003 1:10:06 PM PDT by FeliciaCat
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To: fishtank
""Rumble at Lepanto" T-shirt."

LOL! Just start making some with Lepanto printed in a large scale medevial type.
51 posted on 09/17/2003 1:13:58 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG... I think you're on to something important... history and truth)
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To: Arrowhead1952
"I did not know there were nuclear warheads in Florida."

Think Cuba!
52 posted on 09/17/2003 1:17:23 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Polycarp
in the words of one of the writers, Muhammad `Isa Da'ud -- "the sea will swallow up New York.">

This is just like the Islamists. New York is beloved by many Muslims, probably the city in which they can find the most freedom and acceptance and they plan to blow it up.

53 posted on 09/17/2003 1:17:40 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Dajjal
Pingaroo!
54 posted on 09/17/2003 1:19:18 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Polycarp
There are many Catholic prophecies which predict the Muslims will take over the Vatican. Now they predict it themselves. Italy is being overrun by illegal Muslims as we speak. Is anyone paying attention?
55 posted on 09/17/2003 1:19:32 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Polycarp
Maybe a little comfort is in order

Salvation

       "Salvation" is a very common topic, and yet still subject to much confusion. Salvation is received, not earned.
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9

       It is His gift; not wages. His salvation is for a purpose: to restore mankind to Himself. And it flows from a heart of love.

       (Have you ever wondered why He bothered? The answer is in the verse just before the one above):
That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in [his] kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. Ephesians 2:7

       Salvation is not an optional extra. The classic passage is John Chapter 3, where Nico-demus comes to Jesus by night.

Nicodemus

       We know a great deal about this influential character. The Talmud indicates he was one of the four richest men in Jerusalem. He was a Pharisee and a ruler-a member of the Sanhedrin.

       He was a member of the aristocratic family that had furnished the Hasmonean King Aristobulus II with his ambassador to Pompey in 63 B.C. His son apparently was the man who negotiated the terms of surrender to the Roman garrison in Jerusalem prior to the final destruction of that city in A.D. 70. 1

       Nicodemus outranks each of us in every respect: he was among the most wealthy in that society; he had stature; he had knowledge-in fact, he was the teacher. 2

       Nicodemus was among the most respected and religious among the professionals of his culture. He was certainly ahead of any of us. Yet he was in desperate need. Jesus declared to him, "Ye must be born again." 3If he had a spiritual need, where does that place us ?

Our Most Urgent Need

       Why should God let you into heaven? You say, "I am as good as the next guy." Strike one.

       "I am doing the best I can." Strike two.

       "I'll try harder." Strike three.

       "Nobody's perfect." That's the problem. Sin is a genetic disease; it has contaminated our very nature. Children never need a lesson in being bad. This genetic disease, sin, makes us ineligible for perfection; ineligible to be in the presence of a holy God.

Eternity

       Every one of us will exist forever. The real you-call it "soul," " spirit," whatever-has no mass . It is "software" not "hardware." Having no mass, it has no time dimension limitations. Time is a physical dimension. You are eternal-whether you are "saved" or not!

       The problem is, where will you spend eternity ? If you are perfect-totally free of sin-you will spend it in the presence of God. If not, you will be denied His presence. You and I cannot begin to grasp what that implies. For eternity: that's a long time.

Who Will Perish?

       What separates those who will spend an eternity in hell from those who will not? Heaven will be full of people who have committed all kinds of sin.

       Hell is a real place for real people. 4The one who told us the most about it was the Lord Jesus Himself. There are only two categories-those that perish and those that don't:
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 1 Corinthians 1:18

       Salvation is an arrangement by which His eligibility is substituted for our lack thereof. It is available to us because our debts have been fully paid. Our complete pardon has been purchased and paid for.

       Even killing the Son of God was not severe enough to put those men outside the boundaries of God's offer of forgiveness. 5

       [Is there anything keeping you from accepting God's free gift of salvation right now? If there is any doubt in your mind, bring it to the Throne right now . You don't need an appointment. Don't even read on without nailing this one down... with Him. It's your highest priority over anything-everything-else.]

       We don't become saved by acting saved. We don't become married by acting married. Faith bridges the gap between our need and God's provision. Faith is simply the way we say "yes" to His offer.

       What are you trusting in? Christ, plus something ? Or is your hope and your trust in Christ alone? He did the whole job. To imply something must be added is a form of blasphemy!

       Your helmet was purchased just for you. You are entitled to it because of Him.

Wearing Your Helmet

       With a helmet on, you're noticeable . If you just possess one, it won't be as obvious. Life after death is not the issue. Life after "birth" is. Are you living as if you are saved? Many of us don't live as if we're saved... We are difficult to recognize because of "blending in." We exhibit fear, anxiety, doubt, and hesitation.
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to [his] purpose.
Romans 8:28

       What are the most important words in that verse? The first three: " And we know ." Not just "suspect," or "hope," etc.

       Realize who you are and that Christ paid the full price for your redemption. You have been redeemed, you have been paid for; you are no longer your own.

       Put on your helmet; protect your thoughts by realizing who you are in Him. Nothing protects you more from a blow to your head than our "helmet of salvation." Each time you step out your door each day, realize that you have been redeemed.

       You already have eternal life. No one can take that away from you. So Satan's darts can't reach you. Nothing, by any means, can hurt you. Re-read Romans 8:28-39.

       Take your helmet off and you're vulnerable. Satan will put lying thoughts in your head. Remember this: How many of your sins were yet future at the cross? All of them .

       Take the eternal perspective. When did God first start dealing with your problem? Before the world began! 6What a staggering insight! He knew and planned for your destiny from before the beginning of time! (We often joke: I'm glad he picked me back then. Looking at me now, He might change His mind!)

       We also need to manifest our helmet. We need to alert others to their need for one and how they can obtain theirs. Make this, indeed, a "New Year!" Put on your helmet and let the world know of your security in Christ. Walk with your head up, free of fear and doubt.
56 posted on 09/17/2003 1:22:31 PM PDT by itsahoot
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To: Polycarp
Looks to me like some Muslim seers ate too many burritos before going to sleep. I don;t doubt that NYC, DC, and the Vatican are targets, and will continue to be, but not for the mumbo-jumbo in this article.
57 posted on 09/17/2003 1:24:00 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Polycarp
Ad was an advanced civilization, according to Cook, who has studied the Muslim apocalyptic interpretations and quotes Abdallah as seeing Ad as a civilization that "could predict weather and possessed other advanced technology.

Well, I can understand that predicting the weather is seen as advanced technology to Muslims. lol

58 posted on 09/17/2003 1:27:19 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: All
Everyone wants to write a book.
59 posted on 09/17/2003 1:39:52 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: eastsider
Lol ... why limit yourself. Think grandiose ... plan on a yacht!


Look ... nice little "baby grand" to keep you entertained.


Dining by candlelight. You've had good practice already, during the blackout.

60 posted on 09/17/2003 1:46:25 PM PDT by NYer (Catholic and living it.)
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