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Referendum danger for EU
BBC, Brussels ^ | 17 September, 2003 | By Angus Roxburgh

Posted on 09/17/2003 5:03:57 PM PDT by jrushing

Referendum danger for EU By Angus Roxburgh BBC, Brussels

Will referendums be the undoing of the European Union?

And,is the much-argued-over EU constitution, due to be finalised by an intergovernmental conference starting next month, doomed from the start by the requirement to have it ratified by every member state - in some cases by referendum?

These are the questions that seem to spring from any analysis of Sweden's vote last Sunday on the single currency, and of earlier referendums in other countries - Ireland's on the Nice Treaty and Denmark's on the euro.

The votes are rarely, if ever, merely about the question on the ballot paper.

Electorates tend to use them to express their views more generally on the EU and European integration.

When the Irish first voted on the Nice Treaty, billed as paving the way to the enlargement of the EU, the campaign concentrated on issues such as neutrality, defence and abortion.

The "no" vote reflected those distinct Irish concerns, certainly not a desire by the Irish to prevent new members joining the EU. Denmark's campaign on the euro in 2000 was similarly dominated by fundamental questions about Danish sovereignty and the ceding of powers to "Brussels".

Rural-urban divide This week too, Swedes in the street often did not even refer to the economy or the single currency when asked about their reasons for voting one way or the other.

Instead, they answered in terms of "we have to be together with Europe", or "we need to preserve our independence (or traditions or way of doing things)".

This helps to explain why there was a slight majority in favour of the euro in Stockholm, while rural areas generally voted overwhelmingly against.

We must do a much better job of explaining what we do here in Brussels.

On purely economic issues surrounding the currency, there is no reason why rural and urban Swedes should vote differently.

Rather, the difference reflects the more open, cosmopolitan, "Europe-friendly" feelings of people in the capital city, compared to the more traditional values of the countryside, with its nostalgia for Sweden's "separate identity".

Almost all commentators on the Swedish rejection of the euro interpreted the vote as a rebuff to the EU, not just its currency.

Margot Wallstrom, Sweden's EU Commissioner, said the "no" campaign had built on Swedish euro-scepticism which had been there ever since the 1994 referendum on joining the Union.

Better "political leadership", she said, could have led to "better knowledge about the rest of Europe and to a better feeling for Europe".

Prime Minister Goran Persson said the vote revealed "profound scepticism towards the European project".

European Commission president Romano Prodi, repeating thoughts he had after the Irish No to Nice, remarked that the Swedish vote demonstrated the need to bring Europe closer to its citizens.

Constitution threat

It is recognised, in other words, that EU referendums - on any subject - are used by voters to vent their feelings about Brussels.

This augurs badly for the new constitution.

Not all states will put it to a referendum, but those that do will know that voters will take the chance not so much to approve the fine print of a complicated legal text, but simply to pass judgment on their membership of the EU.

Countries like Sweden and Denmark could easily throw the entire project out, especially as their highly active anti-Euro movements will portray the constitution as a major step towards further integration and loss of sovereignty.

No wonder Tony Blair is so determined not to hold a referendum on the constitution in the UK - because its defeat would not just affect Britain but the entire EU, leaving two years of painstaking work by Valery Giscard d'Estaing and his fellow constitution-drafters in pieces.

Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/3115674.stm


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: euconstitution
Looks like the EU is afraid of Referendums as are the Democrats in the USA.
This is typical of the dislike for anything voted on by "the People", when the vote goes against their desired outcome. They cannot understand why voters vote "against them". The voters are stupid syndrome.
1 posted on 09/17/2003 5:03:58 PM PDT by jrushing
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The Euros are pretending to not understand(or maybe they just don't) what it means for people to govern themselves. The patronizing elitism shown in this article is very typical of the leftist mind-set which holds that democracy is only genuiine when it advances collectivism.
2 posted on 09/17/2003 5:11:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Socialism is slavery)
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Elites don't want the people voting.They believe the masses are asses.
3 posted on 09/17/2003 5:17:01 PM PDT by Lexington Green (FREE TOMMY CHONG)
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To save their bacon, the EU needs to call in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals pronto!
4 posted on 09/17/2003 5:21:28 PM PDT by Plutarch
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The EU elitists should just establish am EU Supreme Court with full judicial review powers throughout the EU, and make sure like-minded elitists dominate the court. Then it will not matter what the people or the legislatures say.
5 posted on 09/17/2003 5:23:36 PM PDT by Montfort
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The "no" vote reflected those distinct Irish concerns, certainly not a desire by the Irish to prevent new members joining the EU.

Baloney!

6 posted on 09/17/2003 5:28:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Socialism is slavery)
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LOLOLOL!
7 posted on 09/17/2003 5:29:40 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Socialism is slavery)
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To save their bacon, the EU needs to call in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals pronto!

Hey, you're right. I didn't think about that...Or...

The EU elitists should just establish an EU Supreme Court with full judicial review powers throughout the EU, and make sure like-minded elitists dominate the court. Then it will not matter what the people or the legislatures say.

...as suggested by Montfort. The Dims could teach the Euro-wienies a few tricks.
8 posted on 09/17/2003 5:35:07 PM PDT by jrushing
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The abuses of democracy by the left are growing at ever increasing pace.

They call off an election in CA, because they are worried about disenfranchisment?

And now, while absorbing soverign, democratic states into, let's be honest here, what is likely to not be a democratic state in any real sense, they don't think they should give them a vote??? At least in Africa they practice one man, one vote, one time. Europe has managed to sink below even that low bar...

The EU - championed by Napoleon, Hitler, Mosely, and now the leftist elite.
9 posted on 09/17/2003 6:40:02 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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