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Voting like crazy!- Mail votes soar in 'most phenomenal election event' in years
Los Angeles Daily News ^ | 9/17/03 | Rick Orlov

Posted on 09/18/2003 5:31:39 AM PDT by kattracks

Even with the Oct. 7 recall election in federal court limbo, Californians have already returned more than 400,000 absentee ballots to local election officials -- the clearest sign yet that voter interest has reached a level not seen in recent history.

In urging the U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals on Wednesday to reinstate the Oct. 7 election date, Secretary of State Kevin Shelley reported more than 2 million requests for absentee ballots have been received by local election officials so far.

The total of absentee ballots already sought is equal to more than one-fourth of the total number of people who voted in the governor's election last November. And registered voters have until Sept. 30 to apply for one by mail.

"This is the most phenomenal election event we've seen in years," said Mark DiCamillo of the Field Poll, which has been tracking elections for more than 50 years.

"We are seeing interest by people that is usually reserved only for close presidential elections, and this is only a California issue. People are talking about this election in bars, at backyard barbecues -- everywhere they meet."

In Los Angeles, the number of requests for absentee ballots is nearing an all-time high -- already nearly 50 percent more than sought for last November's election.

Kristin Heffron, chief deputy registrar-recorder, said the county has received and processed more than 41,000 absentee ballots already out of requests from 397,900 voters. That compares with 275,000 requests for the same period last year.

"It is amazing to see," Heffron said. "None of us can remember anything like this."

Heffron said because there are only four issues on the ballot -- the recall of Gov. Gray Davis, choosing a successor and two ballot propositions -- the county has been able to print and process requests quicker than in past years.

And while it is still too early to determine if there will be any impact because of Monday's court ruling, Heffron said the ballots are coming in by the thousands.

"On Tuesday, we received 12,000 absentee ballots," she said. "We got another 13,000 on Wednesday. They keep coming in."

The registrar's office is verifying the signatures on the envelopes and setting them aside to be counted if the election is held. If it is delayed, the absentee ballots will be thrown out and the whole process will have to be repeated for a new election date.

Absentee ballot requests will be processed through Sept. 30 and can be mailed in prior to the election or brought to a polling station of the registrar's offices on Election Day.

"They shouldn't expect the election to be delayed," Heffron said. "They should turn in the ballots just in case it is still held on Oct. 7."

Heffron said the interest is a combination of factors -- from the historic nature of recalling a governor to the media attention given the election.

And then there is the Arnold factor.

Actor Arnold Schwarzenegger's candidacy has driven interest to incredible heights.

On the day he took out his papers to run, there were more than 20 television crews from around the world to chronicle the event.

"You have to credit him with driving some of the interest, certainly the international interest," DiCamillo said.

"And there is the whole nature of this recall, where you have national broadcasts trying to explain this election to people in Nebraska and Utah and the people here see it and respond. It's an incredible dynamo that feeds on itself."

Counties also report thousands more votes are being faxed from overseas military bases and field posts, where approximately 7,000 Californians in uniform are registered to vote absentee. The state is allowing counties to fax and e-mail absentee applications overseas to meet deadlines already impossible by mail.

All this interest in absentee voting in what could be a tight race worries both Democrat and Republican operatives, who fret about thousands of voters who won't be able to change their minds to meet late-changing circumstances.

For Democrats, the concern is that some voters who might be persuaded to keep Davis in office have already cast absentee ballots to oust him.

For some Republicans, particularly those who believe Schwarzenegger is the party's most electable candidate, the fear is that supporters of Sen. Tom McClintock have already voted and aren't able to vote for Schwarzenegger if McClintock drops out.

"We talked about that at the (Republican) convention last week," said Kern County Republican chairwoman Karen DeWalt.

Once a voter has turned in a ballot, "they don't get to get it back," said Sacramento County elections manager Alice Jarboe. "But if they vote for a candidate who pulls out of the race and they haven't turned their ballot in, they can call our office and we will issue a replacement."

However, state law does provide an escape for voters who return an absentee ballot and then change their minds. If an absentee voter also casts a ballot at a polling place on Election Day, election officials will discard his absentee ballot as part of the verification process which occurs before the final election results are certified.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Rick Orlov, (213) 978-0390 rick.orlov@dailynews.com KEEP SENDING BALLOTS
Despite the appellate court challenge, Registrar-Recorder Conny McCormack has advised voters to continue mailing absentee ballots to the Registrar-Recorder/County Clerk, Absent Voters Section, PO Box 30450, Los Angeles, CA 90030-0450. Absentee ballots can be requested through Sept. 30 by writing to the above address (include your name, home address, mailing address and signature), or online at www.lavote.net.



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1 posted on 09/18/2003 5:31:40 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
However, state law does provide an escape for voters who return an absentee ballot and then change their minds. If an absentee voter also casts a ballot at a polling place on Election Day, election officials will discard his absentee ballot as part of the verification process which occurs before the final election results are certified.

How secure is this process?

2 posted on 09/18/2003 5:37:27 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: kattracks
Dictators, communists and liberal Democrats despise elections........especially when they hold all the power!

The California recall is paramount to a declaration of war against Democrat incompetence!!

3 posted on 09/18/2003 5:37:33 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: DoctorZIn
ping
4 posted on 09/18/2003 5:37:48 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: kattracks
If they're checking the signatures, they're obviously privy to the registration and may be finding that more Repubs are returning their ballots. Thence came Bubba. Thence CAME the judges to try to take care of that little matter.

Wonder how many of those are military ballots??

5 posted on 09/18/2003 5:40:12 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
Wonder how many of those LA ballots are for democrats compared to historical trends. I think I smell a rat.
6 posted on 09/18/2003 5:43:15 AM PDT by WSGilcrest (No one gets to see the Wizard! Not nobody! Not no how!")
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To: kattracks
Well, I'm not worried about any election fraud. Nosirree! Not at all! It would never happen! The Democrats would never sink so low. I have faith in their sense of decency and fairplay [begin giggling here]
7 posted on 09/18/2003 5:44:07 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (France delenda est)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife; diotima
....How secure is this process?.....

Voter fraud alert........

8 posted on 09/18/2003 5:47:31 AM PDT by bert (Don't Panic!)
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To: bert
Just watch the sequence of events. They already know what the stats are for this election. The goal is to stop it and/or switch it to March. The object is to get the Dems to the polls. However, there is a danger here for the Dems. If the Californians go neg on Davis, they may go against all other Dems...and switch to an all Repub ticket. I think they have to let this election go ahead in a timely matter and hence, here come the judges AGAIN.
9 posted on 09/18/2003 5:51:08 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
All the better to rig an election with.
10 posted on 09/18/2003 5:53:17 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
How secure is this process?

Half the state has Diebolt, forget ever catching voter fraud again.

11 posted on 09/18/2003 5:55:06 AM PDT by steve50 (Power takes as ingratitude the writhing of it's victims : Tagore)
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To: steve50
No kidding! I had seen a couple of articles referring to "Early Voting" - which I had mistakening assumed to mean "absentee ballots". Nope. Alameda County already has electronic "voting booths" set up; and people are electronically voting. Why the heck set a date of Oct 7th?
12 posted on 09/18/2003 6:05:11 AM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: kattracks
Doesn't matter.
The criminals controlling the results will shred them all...
Then say, "Oooops".
13 posted on 09/18/2003 6:34:39 AM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Uhm......If a person casts an absentee ballot and then votes in person at a polling place, shouldn't they be arrested for voter fraud?

Or gosh, is that too harsh?

14 posted on 09/18/2003 6:34:40 AM PDT by blackdog ("But to me Joy means only sorrow, and America is one big Joy ride")
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To: Alia
Under the equal protection clause (because according to the 9th circuit, it is made of rubber), wouldn't voting before the election date give an unfair advantage in campaigning?
15 posted on 09/18/2003 6:36:56 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: kattracks
"In Los Angeles, the number of requests for absentee ballots is nearing an all-time high -- already nearly 50 percent more than sought for last November's election."

Very interesting. On one hand, one thinks Rat county, Doofus GOTV effort BUT in the last election Grayout spent over $70 million and was on the ropes. As such, his GOTV effort was probably huge and logistically bigger than in this one. Methinks Arnold has struck a nerve. Recall and Arnold by 15 to 20 points is my call...

16 posted on 09/18/2003 7:02:04 AM PDT by eureka! (Rats and Presstitutes lie--they have to in order to survive.....)
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To: eureka!
Very interesting. On one hand, one thinks Rat county, Doofus GOTV effort BUT in the last election Grayout spent over $70 million and was on the ropes.

We better get the job done because failure to recall Davis will cost the taxpayers ...big time! Wonder how much we'd have to pay Clinton?

CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION ARTICLE 2 VOTING, INITIATIVE AND REFERENDUM, AND RECALL SEC. 18. A state officer who is not recalled shall be reimbursed by the State for the officer's recall election expenses legally and personally incurred. Another recall may not be initiated against the officer until six months after the election.

17 posted on 09/18/2003 7:11:55 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: kattracks
"If it is delayed, the absentee ballots will be thrown out and the whole process will have to be repeated for a new election date." Democrats! In 2000 and continuing until this day, the democrat mantra was/is 'the Republicans wouldn't count the votes; Republicans disenfranchised voters.' Now, when Grayout Davis is in danger of being recalled and a new Governor elected in populace democrat territory, Leftafornia, democrat controlled election boards are ready to toss out ballots. And the amazing thing is, too many voters are stupid enought to buy it! P. T. Barnum would shake his head in astonishment!
18 posted on 09/18/2003 7:13:32 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: RGSpincich
Good point. Methinks the recall train has left the station, is heading downhill and there is no stopping it. Quite the ride in any event...
19 posted on 09/18/2003 7:19:16 AM PDT by eureka! (Rats and Presstitutes lie--they have to in order to survive.....)
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Regarding registration, from Novack today:

"It is also accidental that the recall scenario pumped new life into a California Republican Party previously thought to be comatose. New voter registration, for the time being, is running four-to-one Republican. It has taken three Democratic judges to slow down the revival. "

Hehehehe....

20 posted on 09/18/2003 7:41:09 AM PDT by eureka! (Rats and Presstitutes lie--they have to in order to survive.....)
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