[DiamondDon1]

Okay Fair...nice facts...

Sorry to accuse you of starting a riot.

At this point we all know the RINO / UNELECTABLE issues, so what we need to do is look for subversion by Cruz (it is happening...) and defeat it.

As wrong as this may sound, I believe we should pound the pavement for OUR guys until one week prior to the election. Then we decide what to do. That gives us a chance to see what has happened as a result of the debate, and lets the smoke clear from any new revelations about Tom or Arnold.

I know Hugh's idea of absentee voters and such weighs heavily around here, but it simply does not matter since there nothing we can do about it. If Tom stays in, even if McClintock supporters switch to Arnold, nothing happens with regard to the adsentee votes. It would be nice to know the outcome of the election to know if Arnold should have stepped aside or Tom should leave, and while apparent that it should be Tom, we don't know that now...

Any thoughts on Cruz's subversion of the process?

DD

[FairOpinion]

So how do YOU propose defeating Cruz?

Please stick to facts and figures, not dreams, like the toothfairy is suddenly going to make Democrats vote for Tom.

[Rabid Dog]

Excellent post DD1. You put a lot of time, thought and energy into it. The point that FairOpinion brought up merits some attention. Arnold got tremendous support at the convention of our Republican Leaders. Perhaps our leaders aren't leading us where we want to go. The Tom and Arnold split is symptomatic of what is going on at a national level within the Republican party and being orchestrated by Parsky in California. It is also being replayed in AZ right now. And the Dems are taking complete advantage of it - flaming the fires at every opportunity.

Tom isn't the bad guy and Arnold isn't the bad guy. Tom represents the old school G.O.P. and Arnold represents the new school. Is it time for a third party to be developed? Perhaps the "Centrist" party?