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CHRISTIAN WIDOW GIVEN THREE DAYS TO HAND OVER HER CHILDREN TO MUSLIM GUARDIAN
ChristianityNewsToday.Com ^ | Published Date: September 19th, 2003 | By Michael Ireland

Posted on 09/20/2003 5:20:51 PM PDT by Bobby777

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To: eleni121
good for you ... just be careful, in today's politically correct society ... we just showed "Israel, Islam and Armageddon" in church for the 2nd time ... both times for the 9/11 service ...
41 posted on 09/20/2003 8:52:57 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: Puppage
correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Ann Coulter start dating a Muslim shortly after 9/11?

if so, perplexing ...
42 posted on 09/20/2003 8:55:29 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: eleni121
The last few years have revealed to Americans unbelievably horrible revelations about Islam.

After 9/11 there was a run on bookstores to buy a copy of the Qur'an. Seeing this, in the Middle East, muslims rejoiced at the American interest in Islam and foresaw a wave of converts to Islam. What they overlooked was that Americans weren't interested in converting, but were VERY interested in this new enemy and the religion that fueled the 9/11 event.

In the ensuing two years Americans have learned much about Islam and those who practice it. Where muslims were once thought of as harmless, they are now viewed as fanatics who think nothing of killing innocent civilians. Even those muslims who are native born Americans are viewed with distrust. This is the legacy of those fanatics who flew into the Towers on 9/11.
43 posted on 09/20/2003 8:56:49 PM PDT by Noachian (Liberalism belongs to the Fool, the Fraud, and the Vacuous.)
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To: Bobby777
I do believe there some truth in that. I kinda remember hearing that, too.
44 posted on 09/20/2003 8:57:23 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Noachian
Right on the money. The left is so convinced of its own superiority and so obsessed in opposing anything proposed by the right for domestic political reasons that they can't see the forest for the trees. Dumb, evil or suicidal, take your pick.
45 posted on 09/20/2003 9:02:37 PM PDT by neverdem (Say a prayer for New York)
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To: Noachian
a quick study guide ...

The Koran / Hadith on Jews, Christians, Christianity, Christ, the Gospel, The Deity of Christ and the Holy Trinity

[4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

[3.85] "And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers."

[4.91] You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given.you a clear authority.

[5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

[6.146] And to those who were Jews We made unlawful every animal having claws, and of oxen and sheep We made unlawful to them the fat of both, except such as was on their backs or the entrails or what was mixed with bones: this was a punishment We gave them on account of their rebellion, and We are surely Truthful.

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[62.6] Say: O you who are Jews, if you think that you are the favorites of Allah to the exclusion of other people, then invoke death If you are truthful. (PLEASE COMMIT SUICIDE)

[2.111] And they say: None shall enter the garden (or paradise) except he who is a Jew or a Christian. These are their vain desires. Say: Bring your proof if you are truthful.

[5.14] And with those who say, We are Christians, We made a covenant, but they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of, therefore We excited among them enmity and hatred to the day of resurrection; and Allah will inform them of what they did.

[5.72] Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Marium; and the Messiah said: O Children of Israel! serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall be no helpers for the unjust.

"Fight those who do not profess the true faith [ISLAM], till they pay the jiziya with the hand of humility." - Koran 9: 29

".... I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks [CUT OFF THEIR HEADS], and smite all their finger tips of them [CUT OFF THEIR FINGERS]." - Koran 8: 12

"Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate." - Koran 9: 73

"When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads [CUT OFF THEIR HEADS] and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly." - Koran 47: 4

"The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom...." - Koran 5: 33-34

" Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jiziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued." - Koran 9: 29

"the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures." - Koran 98: 1-8

"Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: 'Taste the torment of the Conflagration!'" - Koran 22: 19-22, 23

"And burn ye him in the blazing fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits. This was he that would not believe in allah Most high and would not encourage the feeding of the indignant. So no friend hath he here this day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds. " - Koran 31-37

"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and genitals cut off, or to be expelled out of the land. Such will be their humiliation in the world, and in the next world they will face an awful horror." - Koran, 5:33-34)

"In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost." - Koran, 8:37

The God of Israel has a Son - Jesus Christ of Nazareth, but Allah has no son according to the Koran Therefore the Biblical Christian God of Israel is not Allah

"They say: Allah has taken a Son (to Himself)! Glory be to Him: he is the Self-sufficient: his is what is in the heavens and what is in the Earth; you have no authority for this; do you say against Allah what you do not know? Say: Those who forge a lie against Allah shall not be successful." - Koran 10:68-69 [SAYS JESUS IS NOT THE SON OF GOD AND WHOEVER SAYS SO IS A LIAR]

"....the Christians call 'Christ the Son Of God'. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but intimate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth." - Koran 9: 30

[4.171] O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and his Word which he communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and his apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one god; far be It from his glory that he should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector. (CLEARLY STATES THAT JESUS IS **NOT** THE SON OF GOD)

[9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

Say: "Praise be to Allah Who begets no son and has no partner in (His) dominion: nor (needs) he any to protect him from humiliation: Yea magnify him for his greatness and glory!" - Koran 17: 111

Further that he may warn those (also) who say "Allah hath begotten a son": - Koran 18: 4

It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that he should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When he determines a matter he only says to it "Be" and it is. - Koran 19: 35

They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous! - Koran 19: 88-89

For it is not consonant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that he should beget a son. - Koran 19: 92

No son did Allah beget nor is there any god along with Him: (if there were many gods) behold each god would have taken away what he had created and some would have lorded it over others! Glory to Allah (he is free) from the (sort of) things they attribute to Him! - Koran 23: 91

he begetteth not nor is he begotten; - Koran 112: 3

The Hadith Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176-177: Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:

[176] Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

[177] Allah's Apostle said, "The (Final) Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

The Hadith Volume 2, Book 26, Number 594-595: Narrated Abu Huraira:

[594] The Prophet was asked, "Which is the best deed?" He said, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle." He was then asked, "Which is the next (in goodness)?" He said, "To participate in Jihad in Allah's Cause." He was then asked, "Which is the next?" He said, "To perform Hajj-Mabrur. "

[595] (the mother of the faithful believers) I said, "O Allah's Apostle! We consider Jihad as the best deed." The Prophet said, "The best Jihad (for women) is Hajj Mabrur. "
46 posted on 09/20/2003 9:04:00 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: Noachian
You are quite correct in your assessment of a renewed interest in "re-discovering" Islam after the attacks. However, a dual discovery of Islam has evolved. One thread includes a "wave of converts" to Islam especially in the last few years of prison inmates. disaffected youth, alienated youth, angry types and misfits (think John Muhamed) who satisfy their deep despair and anger by belonging to what they see as a "cause". What forces are involved in their creation? The despairing, secular society that has overwhelmed mainstream religion's capacity to deal with the anomie of life today. In past eras they would have disappeared into the "wild west" or somewhere in the far reaches of premodern life.

It is just possible that the attacks on 9/11 galvanized rather than sounded the death knell for this nation. (I do believe that having this President in office is significant as far as the ability of our nation to withstand and defeat these enemies.)The Japanese realized their error almost as soon as the attack on Pearl Harbor was over. They had awakened the "sleeping giant"

47 posted on 09/20/2003 9:14:40 PM PDT by eleni121 (Never buy socialist UAW made cars)
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To: AppyPappy
Islam is an insane murder cult.
48 posted on 09/20/2003 9:50:13 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Bobby777
And THAT was just the chapter on foreplay.
49 posted on 09/20/2003 11:39:56 PM PDT by LA Conservative (evil triumphs when good men do nothing)
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To: LA Conservative
What's wrong with raising children as muslims?
Religion of Peace
50 posted on 09/21/2003 1:35:56 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: LenS
You're not reading the article.

The root of so many kinds of evil, both on FR and elsewhere.
51 posted on 09/21/2003 4:29:33 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Steve0113
I often wonder how people can so easily learn to twist the meaning of a word. Is it because of TV? Cult is the root word of culture. Islam is a heresy. They deny the divinity of Jesus.
52 posted on 09/21/2003 4:58:24 AM PDT by RichardMoore
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Islam is a heresy. They deny the divinity of Jesus.
53 posted on 09/21/2003 5:00:07 AM PDT by RichardMoore
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To: Puppage
An ugly woman?

No, a bubble-head Liberal who thought the phrase "unequally yoked" was somehow not functional in HER life!

54 posted on 09/21/2003 5:00:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
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To: Noachian
The perpetrators of 9/11 were not fanatics. The quran supports killing anyone who "oppresses Islam" We need to know that through demographic changes due to declining birth rates our enemy will be growing stronger. Europe will belong to them in a few decades.
55 posted on 09/21/2003 5:08:18 AM PDT by RichardMoore
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To: Bobby777
Mrs. Siham refuses to believe her husband converted to Islam, because he had never mentioned this to her or anyone else in his family. Also, there is an irregularity in his conversion document. Dated July 29, 1991, it is signed by two Muslim witnesses (as required) but not by the husband himself. Where his signature should be there is merely an 'X' mark. Further, his death certificate stated that he was Christian and he was buried in a Christian cemetery, which would not be allowed if he were known to be a Muslim. Even the Civil Court in its ruling acknowledged "no one was aware of his conversion to Islam."

Ultimately, the Koran is the deciding authority and it is predetermined against her. She should flee with her children, if at all possible. Otherwise, she will die a Christian pauper and her kids will be assimilated into islam, if they haven't been already.

56 posted on 09/21/2003 5:30:11 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Bobby777
Dispicable. And this is in Jordan, where things are supposed to be more progressive and modern.
57 posted on 09/21/2003 7:16:00 AM PDT by agrace
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To: RichardMoore
Correct. Certain liberal preachers, even in the USA, such as Robert Schuller, believes moslems are "saved" because they believe in *a* "jesus" ... it is certainly not the Jesus of Biblical Christianity and by Biblical definition, denying His Deity qualifies as unbelief (as you stated) ... this is the contrast between the believer and the unbeliever in Matthew 16:13-17 (KJV) and John 3:17-18.

Anyone may come to this belief. It's a matter of acceptance by simply asking (John 6:37).
58 posted on 09/21/2003 9:57:03 AM PDT by Bobby777 (Romans 10:9-10)
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To: agrace
Despicable. And this is in Jordan, where things are supposed to be more progressive and modern.

yep. imagine how bad it is in a "non-progressive" moslem country. no doubt many by birth in those countries feel just as oppressed. that's why in Saudi Arabia it is ILLEGAL for a moslem to convert to any other religion than Islam.

Saudi Arabia is the birthplace and progenitor of Islam. there are quite a few that haven't grasped the full meaning of that historical fact. OBL's daddy built Mecca and people think the Saudis don't feel any special ties to the bin Ladens.
59 posted on 09/21/2003 10:01:04 AM PDT by Bobby777
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To: Bobby777
Yeah, Lisa, that cute California blonde and Princton grad, did sooo much to advance women's issues out of the dark ages.



Lisa Halaby aka Queen Nour al Hussein of Jordan and friend of Mme Chirac.

60 posted on 09/21/2003 10:34:26 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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