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Educator lauds teacher's use of 'explicit' material in class - ( Bestiality and Incest )
Montreal Gazette ^ | September 20, 2003 | Allison Lampert

Posted on 09/21/2003 11:47:53 AM PDT by UnklGene

Educator lauds teacher's use of 'explicit' material in class

Article read on bestiality and incest. Without education department guidelines schools depend on instructors' judgment

ALLISON LAMPERT The Gazette

Saturday, September 20, 2003

A teacher who had his Grade 10 students read about bestiality and incest during class should be lauded, a veteran school board commissioner said.

Having 15-year-olds read about "sex with dogs and stallions" in class isn't any more shocking than the "trash" they see every day in the media, commissioner Robert Cadotte said.

At least a teacher could hold a classroom discussion on why such behaviour is wrong.

"When a teacher discusses this kind of thing in class, I say 'thank you,' " said Cadotte, a member of the Commission Scolaire de Montréal.

Cadotte was thanking a high- school teacher from Terrebonne who reportedly had his students read a graphic article from the Journal de Montréal in class.

A news account was published yesterday about the teacher and the controversial article, which described a child having sex with his mother, among other taboo acts. It was used during an ethics and religious culture class, which doesn't have specific guidelines because they are under review by the Department of Education.

The principal at the school, École Léopold-Gravel, couldn't be reached for comment.

One Montreal principal said his school would rather not expose its students to any more sex and violence than what they already see outside the classroom.

"We try to counteract what they're seeing everyday," said Wayne Commeford, principal of James Lyng High School in Saint Henri.

At James Lyng, teachers avoid discussing graphic violence or pornography in class because students would have no choice but to listen to the material, Commeford said. It's not like a violent television program teenagers could simply turn off.

"Most principals in most schools rely on the good judgment of teachers," he said. "But there isn't a bible out there ... that tells them (teachers) what is right and what is wrong."

Cadotte said critics should first judge the morality of the media and popular culture before judging a teacher's decision to use offensive material in class.

"What the teacher did was to use a newspaper that's in the hands of every student," he said. "Our Secondary Four and Five students don't come from the planet Mars.

"When it's a question of ethics we first have to ask, what do we put in the hands of our kids?"


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beastiality; canada; ethics; highschool; incest; indoctrination; itsjustsex; leftists; liberals; montreal; schools

1 posted on 09/21/2003 11:47:54 AM PDT by UnklGene
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To: UnklGene
Today, children, we're going to talk about a "three-some."
Fido, your sister and you! (vomit)
2 posted on 09/21/2003 11:51:13 AM PDT by UnklGene
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To: UnklGene
But in New Jersey a child cannot give his classmates pencils that say "Jesus loves the little children". Given that most children in pre-kindergarten cannot even read. . .it's baffling.
3 posted on 09/21/2003 11:51:29 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: UnklGene
If I took Valium I'd go have one right now.

This is an abomination!
4 posted on 09/21/2003 11:52:02 AM PDT by Mears
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To: UnklGene
"Most principals in most schools rely on the good judgment of teachers," he said. "But there isn't a 'bible' out there ... that tells them (teachers) what is right and what is wrong."

Of course there's not a Bible out there! It's classified as being full of "hate" speech, and much is "outlawed" in Canada.

5 posted on 09/21/2003 11:56:04 AM PDT by UnklGene
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"But there isn't a bible out there ... that tells them (teachers) what is right and what is wrong."

Um, yes there is. They just don't want to get burned when they touch it.

6 posted on 09/21/2003 11:57:47 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Terri's story must be told to the masses. Pray with us for this woman and her family.)
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To: UnklGene
At least a teacher could hold a classroom discussion on why such behaviour is wrong.

Yeah, and he subscribes to Playboy for the stimulating 'articles'.

7 posted on 09/21/2003 11:58:06 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: UnklGene
I'll bet that the school would have come down harder if the teacher and students had been discussing the ethics of homosexual acts and why "they are wrong".
8 posted on 09/21/2003 11:58:43 AM PDT by weegee
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To: UnklGene
Let's have explicit math and english in the schools!

I want to see raw multiplication and naked conjunctions; I demand study of the copula and logical intercourse in every classroom!
9 posted on 09/21/2003 12:05:52 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: UnklGene
Cadotte said critics should first judge the morality of the media and popular culture before judging a teacher's decision to use offensive material in class.

Typical liberal response.

10 posted on 09/21/2003 12:07:33 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: UnklGene
there isn't a bible out there ... that tells them (teachers) what is right and what is wrong

Actually, there is, but you Canadians have banned it.

11 posted on 09/21/2003 12:09:30 PM PDT by Alouette (The bombing begins in five minutes.)
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To: UnklGene
At least a teacher could hold a classroom discussion on why such behaviour is wrong.

Well that's awfully judgmental, isn't it? Instead of trying to impose a value judgment on the children, the teacher should hold a classroom discussion on alternate lifestyles and the value of tolerance and diversity. [/sarchasm]

12 posted on 09/21/2003 12:41:46 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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To: UnklGene
"Having 15-year-olds read about "sex with dogs and stallions" in class isn't any more shocking than the "trash" they see every day in the media, commissioner Robert Cadotte said."

A fascinating bit of logic, eh? The point seems to be that trash in the classroom isn't as bad - or is at least as good - as trash on TV.

In other words, kids and parents should get used to the idea that the classroom has nothing more to offer than Jerry Springer.

13 posted on 09/21/2003 12:44:55 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Mears
"Abomination" is definitely the word. Tell me, do you think the people who put him in office will remove him?
14 posted on 09/21/2003 1:17:20 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Bubba_Leroy
. . . the teacher should hold a classroom discussion on alternate lifestyles and the value of tolerance and diversity. [/sarchasm]

Wait ... don't tell me ... lemme guess ... if that type of holding needs help (e.g., the kid's too short) ... the teacher should hold the kid up high enough so s/he can fiddle with the horse's gonads ... right???

Sheeesh ... ain't Publik edjakayshun wonnerfulll ??? (PUKE!!!)

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15 posted on 09/21/2003 1:41:35 PM PDT by GeekDejure
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To: UnklGene
It's long been said that after liberal pukes got homosexual subject matter as "normalized" curriculum, it wouldn't be long before bestiality followed. Just watch, by 2010, a "sexually open" teenager from Taxachucetts or Californicate will show up to the prom with a rotweiler as her "date".
16 posted on 09/21/2003 1:51:35 PM PDT by Wondervixen (Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)
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To: Clara Lou
Clara Lou,I certainly hope they remove him from office.
17 posted on 09/21/2003 3:16:30 PM PDT by Mears
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