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Copyright Infringement complaint from Vanity Fair/Condé Nast
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Posted on 09/23/2003 1:40:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 09/25/2003 11:29:47 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: AppyPappy
Fair use allows you to quote a little bit, too, but if the authorities that be only want us to link, that's what we should do.
41 posted on 09/23/2003 2:01:09 PM PDT by Defiant (Half a loaf is better than none. Support Arnold, and don't pinch a loaf!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Actually, you have a good point. I know there are other sites that don't have this problem posting articles.
42 posted on 09/23/2003 2:02:12 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Ff--150
Like I said: WE're at war, but don't seem to realize that. They're going after this forum as well. (And "we're in power")

Could be we're hitting a nerve? ;o)

43 posted on 09/23/2003 2:02:52 PM PDT by 4CJ (Come along chihuahua, I want to hear you say yo quiero taco bell. - Nolu Chan, 28 Jul 2003)
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To: Jim Robinson
"Mr. Foster owns the copyright in this article and Vanity Fair paid for the exclusive right to publish the article for a limited period of time."

I don't think that's S.O.P. for most publications, or even Vanity Fair. This article must be a special case. How would anyone know about the exclusive arrangement and time limit? There are also legal remedies that would allow for posting any length of any material on FR, i.e. compulsory licensing, and it may be worth looking into that expense. I don't think it would all that great.

44 posted on 09/23/2003 2:03:29 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: dighton
Good list . . . perhaps a good way to show the info-narcs that we don't appreciate their nonsense is for all FReepers who are buying any of the Conde trash to cancel their subscriptions along with a nice little note explaining why.

If you know . . . What are the copyright laws anyway? For example, Ann Coulter writes a book . . . or a newspaper column. A gazillion people quote from it. Are they all breaking the law since she, obviously, hasn't given them all permission? Or is there some kind of "blanket" permission that's allowed?

45 posted on 09/23/2003 2:03:50 PM PDT by geedee (Would the boy you were be proud of the man you are?)
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To: MineralMan
This is the second one of these recently. I wonder if someone is ratting out FR to publications. It's possible that it's just a coincidence, but....

For once I agree with you .... three times is enemy action. Guess time will tell.

46 posted on 09/23/2003 2:06:33 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam : totalitarian political ideology / meme cloaked under the cover of religion)
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To: Jim Robinson
I have a funny feeling this going to get worse. I hope it doesn't, but I just have a bad feeling more publications will start doing this. One thing we can do is put Free
Republic members out there as reporters and report the news, honestly, as it happens, before the spin begins. There are a lot of us, all over the country/ world and we often times beat the competition to the headlines. I think we could go to the next level. Seriously, what would prevent us from obtaining press passes at events?
47 posted on 09/23/2003 2:06:34 PM PDT by freedom4ever
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To: deathscythex
Yep...and beware the infiltrators who may ignore the rules and post just to get the site in trouble. Everyone has to keep an eye open. That gives me an idea...DUhh. Just kidding.
48 posted on 09/23/2003 2:07:44 PM PDT by cwb
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To: Jim Robinson
Is it legal to summarize an article? Once in print, information has been made public domain, or it should be that way.

So how about it? Summarize the content for discussion and provide a link to the article? Is that allowed?
49 posted on 09/23/2003 2:08:54 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: geedee
If you know . . . What are the copyright laws anyway?

Not an attorney, what to speak of a copyright attorney. Way out of my depth.

50 posted on 09/23/2003 2:09:43 PM PDT by dighton (NLC™)
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To: Jim Robinson
Am I right in thinking we can still post articles from the original Vanity Fair magazine (1860-1863)? Those issues can be accessed online.

http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/serial?id=vfair

"The Vanity Fair described on this page was a humorous weekly published in New York in the 19th century. To my knowledge, that weekly has no relation to the present-day Conde Nast publication, except for its name and its publication place. (The name was also the title of a famous Thackeray novel in the 1840s, and has been used for various magazines since then.)"

Publication History

Vanity Fair began publication in 1860, and ceased publication in 1863.
51 posted on 09/23/2003 2:11:01 PM PDT by syriacus (Terri can feel --- and she'd like a meal.)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Could be we're hitting a nerve? ;o)

Hopefully a death from a 1000 slashes =>

52 posted on 09/23/2003 2:14:13 PM PDT by Ff--150 (we have been fed with milk, not meat)
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To: syriacus
The name was also the title of a famous Thackeray novel in the 1840s, and has been used for various magazines since then.

And Thackeray got it from John Bunyan, Pilgrim's Progress.

53 posted on 09/23/2003 2:14:29 PM PDT by dighton (NLC™)
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To: Jim Robinson
*chuckle*

I know this is not a funny subject.

What is funny is the mentality that that came up with the apparent program of attacking FR through "copyright infringement" charges.

Can we get a list of Conde Nast publications?
I have no desire to read anything created by perverts er... sensitive people anyway.

My last question, is, how do we identify the trolls who will inevitably arrive for the express purpose of violating the ban?
And thus prompting additional charges?

Can a filter be installed to prevent all mention of Vanity Fait and Conde Nast publications completely?

54 posted on 09/23/2003 2:16:19 PM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: dighton
What a pathetic group of publications. It is unlikely that there is anything in any of them that would interest our erudite posters and lurkers! Most of those rags are either vehicles to indulge oneself, or high priced gossip mags. I read them only when I'm waiting to get my hair cut.
55 posted on 09/23/2003 2:16:59 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Fester Chugabrew
""Mr. Foster owns the copyright in this article and Vanity Fair paid for the exclusive right to publish the article for a limited period of time."

I don't think that's S.O.P. for most publications, or even Vanity Fair.
"

Actually, that's the normal procedure. I've been a freelance journalist since 1974, and almost always sold just First North American Serial Rights, which is what they're talking about. I'm not writing any longer, but I wrote for several mags with circulations over 1 million. The length of time for exclusivity varied from publication to publication, but I always retained my copyright in all articles I wrote. The magazine got just first publication rights.

Incidentally, this is because of the IRS. If a publication buys all rights from a regular contributor, the IRS is pretty insistent that the writer is an employee and not a private contractor. Otherwise, the magazines would hold writers up for all rights.
56 posted on 09/23/2003 2:17:31 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Jim Robinson
Seems like they have been coming out of the workwork lately.
57 posted on 09/23/2003 2:18:25 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Centurion2000
"This is the second one of these recently. I wonder if someone is ratting out FR to publications. It's possible that it's just a coincidence, but....

For once I agree with you .... three times is enemy action. Guess time will tell."

I hope not. Otherwise, we're going to be reduced to paraphrasing and linking, and that's not going to work nearly as well as seeing the articles right here. But, it's certainly a possibility that someone is maliciously emailing publications and linking to FR postings.

It should be a matter of considerable concern to all Freepers.
58 posted on 09/23/2003 2:21:35 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Jim Robinson
"and that you provide us with a written statement specifying all of the material removed,"

I hope you submit a compliance letter with a postscript of :KISS MY A$$.
59 posted on 09/23/2003 2:24:03 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Publius6961
"Can a filter be installed to prevent all mention of Vanity Fait and Conde Nast publications completely?"

And suddenly, all Democrat National Committee public correspondence will be published in Vanity Fair and Conde Nast Traveler.
60 posted on 09/23/2003 2:26:29 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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