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Assassin secretly deported after JFK killed
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, September 24, 2003

Posted on 09/24/2003 12:04:04 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: Leatherneck_MT
Again, Oswald's brother and hunting partner thought he was a good shot. Was he part of the conspiracy too?
201 posted on 10/08/2003 7:21:04 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright
I really don't care if Oswald's brother and hunting partner thought he was a good shot.

His military record proves he was marginal at best.

That is an indisputable fact.
202 posted on 10/08/2003 7:53:52 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (If you continue to do what you've always done, you will continue to get what you've always got)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
I can see you have spent a lot of time looking at this issue and I guess we will just have to disagree.

I stongly believe Oswald was the lone gunman and all of the physical evidence points this way. Oswald was a commie nut job who hated Kennedy for his position on Cuba. He defected to the Soviet Union and had a Russian wife. He carried a long wrapped package to work that day. At least one of the shots came from the TSBD as proven by the Connally trajectory. There are nummerous photos of people looking up at the TSBD after one of the shots was fired.

Finally, if you are going to set Oswald up as a patsy, you don't put a second or third gunman at a different location, like the grassy knoll, because it would create conflicting forensic evidence. Nobody that stupid would be able to cover their tracks for 40 years.
203 posted on 10/08/2003 8:33:55 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: BigBobber
I have spent many years studying this. I'm not going to try to convince you to change your mind, and I do respect that you believe that LHO was the Lone Gunman. We will have to agree to disagree on that point. In my professional opinion, Lee did not have the skill to make the shots he's accused of making. Nobody will ever be able to convince me to the contrary.

Personally I believe that Lee was an Intelligence Operative. There are too many things in his past that indicate a connection to either the DIA or the CIA.
204 posted on 10/08/2003 9:12:08 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (If you continue to do what you've always done, you will continue to get what you've always got)
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To: BigBobber
You're not going to get anywhere with the detractors. They don't understand the Zapruder film at all. They'll continue to bring up nonsense like a missing brain and ignore the skull and head pictures and x-rays. After all, no one stole his skull, did they? They are fully aware of "cratering" but that doesn't fit into their dreamworld.

A bunched up jacket becomes "evidence" but the actual measured picture of the back wound is ignored.

They continue a line of supposed people on the knoll and ignore the people who were standing next to the fence who didn't hear or see anyone behind the fence. The picture of the people standing in front of the fence look pretty calm despite a so-called bullet whizzing past their ears.

The funniest one is the so-called half blind witness because he didn't wear his glasses that day. They neglect to say that he was far-sighted.

It's all very amusing if you have the time and provides an idea of credibilty for other threads.

I'm still wondering how they make the excuse a number of WWII bullets can only go two inches into a person and disappear.
205 posted on 10/08/2003 12:46:25 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
You don't care!? Obviously, no factual information matters to you. His military record was contradictory. Heck, I'm a pretty good chess player but I have my off days too. Oswald might have too. Do you think his brother lied?
206 posted on 10/08/2003 1:34:03 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Oswald was a Sharpshooter. That means that half the Marine Corps is supposed to be lousy shots.

I can hear the D.I right now:

"All of you pansies can't shoot so we're going to give you a shortened course of less than a hundred yards. Don't worry about passing. You can miss one third of your shots."

Go Army!!
207 posted on 10/08/2003 2:08:23 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat.)
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Obviously you haven't followed or looked at anything I have posted before. So before you come in here and start accusing me of being oblivious to FACTS, maybe you should go back and read them.

There are NO factual contradictions in LHO's Military Record. If there are then point them out. Line and Verse please.

The man was NOT a skilled marksman. He couldn't hit the broadside of a barn with a bull fiddle on his initial Qual day.

On his brothers assertation that he was a "good shot". I PROFESSIONALLY disagree with him. I trained Marine Riflemen, I know what kind of shot Oswald was from his military record.

The man was a marginal shot at best. Period.

Did his brother Lie? I don't now, I don't care. The reason I don't care is because his record (Lee's) speaks for itself. THAT is THE fact in this case. It's on record with the Military and has never been changed. It never WILL be changed. His brother can change his testimony at any time he so chooses. The Military record will not change under any circumstances.
208 posted on 10/08/2003 5:41:48 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (If you continue to do what you've always done, you will continue to get what you've always got)
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Based on the general Marine Corps ratings, Lt. Col. A. G. Folsom, Jr., head, Records Branch, Personnel Department, Headquarters US. Marine Corps, evaluated the sharpshooter qualification as a "fairly good shot" and a low marksman rating as a "rather poor shot." When asked to explain the different scores achieved by Oswald on the two occasions when he fired for record, Major Anderson said:

...when he fired that [212] he had just completed a very intensive preliminary training period. He had the services of an experienced highly trained coach. He had high motivation. He had presumably a good to excellent rifle and good ammunition. We have nothing here to show under what conditions the B course was fired. It might well have been a bad day for firing the riflewindy, rainy, dark. There is little probability that he had a good, expert coach, and he probably didn't have as high a motivation because he was no longer in recruit training and under the care of the drill instructor. There is some possibility that the rifle he was firing might not have been as good a rifle as the rifle that he was firing in his A course firing, because [he] may well have carried this rifle for quite some time, and it got banged around in normal usage.

Major Anderson concluded:

I would say that as compared to other Marines receiving the same type of training, that Oswald was a good shot, somewhat better than or equal tobetter than the average let us say. As compared to a civilian who had not received this intensive training, he would be considered as a good to excellent shot.

When Sergeant Zahm was asked whether Oswald's Marine Corps training would have made it easier to operate a rifle with a four-power scope, he replied:

Based on that training, his basic knowledge in sight manipulation and trigger squeeze and what not, I would say that he would be capable of sighting that rifle in well, firing it, with 10 rounds.

After reviewing Oswald's marksmanship scores, Sergeant Zahm concluded:

I would say in the Marine Corps he is a good shot, slightly above average, and as compared to the average male of his age throughout the civilian, throughout the United States, that he is an excellent shot.

Ouch, now the members of the Marine Corps are not only lousy shots but they're liars too.
209 posted on 10/08/2003 7:12:22 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
In any case, oswalds proficancy & maksmanship in the marines doesn't really matter..
The facts of the Reports own timeline on the 3 'oswald' shots show that expert marksmen in ideally recreated circumstances could not exactly duplicate oswalds supposed feat..

-- The JFK case remains open, -- and always will.
210 posted on 10/08/2003 10:04:00 PM PDT by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but Arnie won, & politics as usual lost. Yo!)
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To: Shooter 2.5
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211 posted on 10/12/2003 7:24:10 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat.)
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To: aculeus
This picture looks like a Photoshop "doctor job". If you look at the airplane and it's angle, it will slam into this fence railing, and will take out this French Assassin.
Also the angle of this man's face is the same as on the "doctor job" pictures on the grassy knoll.
212 posted on 10/12/2003 8:36:34 PM PDT by slickfree (Drudge Vendicated? YES!)
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To: JohnHuang2
More disinformation IMHO.
213 posted on 10/12/2003 8:38:54 PM PDT by ladyinred (Talk about a revolution, look at California!!! We dumped Davis!!!)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Tears of Autumn, Charles McCarry (former CIA)
214 posted on 10/12/2003 8:53:22 PM PDT by des
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To: PhilDragoo
"There were of course three rifles found that day: a British .303 Enfield on the roof of the Depository, and a 7.65 Mauser (Mauser stamped on the rifle) witnessed by Deputy Roger Craig. Craig was repeatedly attacked and finally killed. He is the subject of a videotape "Two Men In Dallas" wherein he is interviewed by Mark Lane."

Aren't there photos taken by Dallas new photographers confirming this? I remember seeing photos published somewhere which clearly showed Dallas police removing Mauser rifles from the book depository building later on that day. I just wish I could remember where I saw them published.

215 posted on 10/12/2003 9:21:28 PM PDT by Dazedcat
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To: JohnHuang2
The disinformation machine is still up and running after 40 years. That means they aren't all dead, yet. Sure would like to see the real KGB report. Some Russian is setting on a fortune and doesn't realize it.
216 posted on 10/12/2003 9:23:43 PM PDT by fightu4it (conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
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To: slickfree
Yes, it's a hoax available at this site.

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/photos/photos.html
217 posted on 10/13/2003 4:47:02 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: Dazedcat
Nope. That's another of the lies that were put out by the tin-foil hat nuts.

A detective wrote in a report that he thought it was a Mauser when he first saw it.

There are pictures on the internet that shows the Carcano as it was discovered surrounded by boxes. The photographers tracked the rifle out of the building so there's a sequence starting at the boxes, numerous pictures as it's being taken from the building and the displaying of the same rifle at the police headquarters.

The bullets that killed Kennedy and wounded Connelly came from the Carcano and no other Carcano. There was a thread that came from Oswald's particular shirt but it couldn't be traced to his exact shirt. His palm print was found on the rifle but the wood was too grainy to show other prints but his prints were all over the surrounding boxes of the sniper's nest.


218 posted on 10/13/2003 6:44:28 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: justshutupandtakeit; tpaine; Leatherneck_MT
A substantial list of credible witnesses to the large wound at the back of the head appears above at 180.

Floyd Riebe, a medical photographic technician who took the pictures of the body at Bethesda, said that the President had "a big gaping hole in the back of the head." This is more damage than could have been done by a military jacketed bullet; the bullet was probably the explosive, or frangible, type. Riebe was shown the official autopsy photographs, and strongly disagreeing with them, he said, "The two pictures you showed me are not what I saw that night." With regard to the X-rays, which show the face shot away, Riebe said, "It's being phonied someplace. It's make believe." The evidence that could corroborate Riebe's statement--the President's brain--is missing. [Robert J. Groden, The Killing of a President, Viking, 1993, page 82.]

Tom Robinson of Gawler's Funeral Home drew these diagrams:

What Robinson has circled corresponds with the Harper Fragment deemed occipital.

219 posted on 10/13/2003 1:54:20 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
Charles A. Crenshaw, M.D., JKF Conspiracy of Silence, Signet, 1992.

As you note, Dr. Crenshaw was one of the doctors on duty at Parkland Memorial called to tend Kennedy, enabling first-hand observation of the head wound.

Crenshaw notes the many other medical professionals who share his description of the massive defect at the rear of the skull.

220 posted on 10/13/2003 1:59:57 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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