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To: PhilDragoo
So that was QJ/WIN. He was associated with the Corsican Mafia and drawn into this through the CIA/Mafia attempts against Castro.

Those attempts were hidden from both the President and Attorney General and even Dulles' successor at CIA. Harvey lied to RFK about these attempts and continued to run them for months after he was explicitly ordered to stop them.

Apparently these efforts continued until the late summer/early fall of '63. When they finally stopped it looks as though the apparatus was turned around and targeted JFK rather than Castro.

It is important to note that the CIA admitted after the fact that several of the conspirators charged by Garrison were, in fact, connected to the Agency. In Shaw's case for decades. But the quantity of lies told by the FBI and CIA is gigantic.

If you want to read something interesting read Dean Andrews' interview by the Warren Commission particularly his comments of the possibility of LHO being able to do the shooting.

It is also interesting to see the disbelief of those who knew Oswald that he could have done it and to see the number of witnesses who did not think the shots came from the TSBD.
And to catalogue the number of exhibits embarassing to the LoneNut theory which are MISSING. Gee, I wonder why.
30 posted on 09/24/2003 12:48:36 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree. Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Marchetti said Helms was briefed every morning on the Garrison-Shaw trial, and wanted to be sure the agency was "doing everything we can to help our people"--meaning Shaw.

Dean Andrews is fascinating:

Liebeler: Do you mean to suggest by that statement that you have considerable doubt in your mind that Oswald killed the President?

Andrews: I know good and well he did not. With that weapon, he couldn't have been capable of making three controlled shots in that short time.

Liebeler: You are basing your opinion on reports that you have received over news media as to how many shots were fired in what period of time; is that correct?

Andrews: I am basing my opinion on five years as an ordnanceman in the Navy. You can lean into those things, and with throwing the bolts--if I couldn't do it myself, eight hours a day, doing this for a living, constantly on the range, I know this civilian couldn't do it. He might have been a sharp marksman at one time, but if you don't lean into that rifle and don't squeeze and control constantly, your brain can tell you how to do it, but you don't have the capability. . . .You have to stay with it. You just don't pick up a rifle or pistol or whatever weapon you are using and stay proficient with it You have to know what you are doing. You have to be a conniver. This boy could have connived the deal, but I think he is a patsy. Somebody else pulled the trigger. . . .It's just taking the five years and thinking about it a bit. I have fired as much as 40,000 rounds of ammo a day for seven days a week. You get pretty good with it as long as you keep firing. Then I have gone back after two weeks. I used to be able to take a shotgun, go on a skeet, and pop 100 out of 100. After two weeks, I could only pop 60 of them. I would have to start shooting again, same way with the rifle and machine guns. Every other person I knew, same thing happened to them. You just have to stay at it. [11H 330]

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The most famous American military sniper in history, with 93 confirmed kills in Vietnam, Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock, U.S. Marine Corps senior instructor at the Sniper Instructor School at Quantico, Virginia, said his Marines had not been able to duplicate the shooting attributed to Oswald after duplicating the conditions exactly. "Now if I can't do it, how in the world could a guy who was a non-Qual on the rifle range and later only qualified 'marksman' do it?" (Craig Roberts, A Sniper Looks At Dealey Plaza, CPI, 1994, pp. 89-90.

74 posted on 09/24/2003 10:12:44 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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