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To: BellStar
So, by the way, are all these Christian right people who pretend to be friends of Israel.

Is it not true that some Christian churches teach that in the end times a lot of Jews will be converted and accept Jesus as Truth?

Is it also not true that some Christian churches look forward to the end times?

If I were looking at it from a Jewish point of view, I think I would be a little wary of people who support my state because they hope that Jesus will come soon and sort of eliminate the essence of my state, namely its Jewishness.

I think that the Jewish people would prefer Christian support because the Christians support the right of Israel to exist as a state and as a homeland for the Jews.

I know that I personally would hope that my friends like me for who I am - as I am - and not for who or what they can change me into. That just sounds like normal respect (as long as I'm not an ax murderer, which I'm not!)

22 posted on 09/24/2003 10:06:17 AM PDT by SmokyGeo
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To: SmokyGeo
Is it not true that some Christian churches teach that in the end times a lot of Jews will be converted and accept Jesus as Truth?

Is it also not true that some Christian churches look forward to the end times?

If I were looking at it from a Jewish point of view, I think I would be a little wary of people who support my state because they hope that Jesus will come soon and sort of eliminate the essence of my state, namely its Jewishness.

People like Bill Maher - who is just vile, in my opinion - can't be taken seriously when they say things like he says here. They demonstrate their ignorance and malevolence every time they open their mouth.

Before the first coming of Christ 2000 years ago, with reference to the "spiritual" categorization of people groups there were the Jews and the Gentiles. After Christ, spiritually speaking, there is now the Church, the Jew, and the Gentile.

Christ's death on the cross opened the door for all people - Jews and Gentiles - to come to God through Christ. Jesus is the way to God for all people. That is what the temple curtain ripping in two symbolized in the gospels.

The main issue today (since Christ, in other words) is not ethnic background (Jewish vs all others - Gentiles) but those in the body of Christ (true believers in Christ, those who have placed their faith and trust in Him as Savior, believing that His death alone can atone for our sins) vs all others - everyone who rejects Christ. If a person rejects Christ, it doesn't matter whether that person is Jewish or Gentile; what is paramount is that such a person has rejected the only way of salvation there is, and as such, is going to hell when he dies.

Christ's second coming is two-part:

First, the rapture, which could occur at any time. In this event Christ comes from heaven to the clouds above the earth, and raises the bodies of all the dead believers, and "catches up" all the bodies of living believers, and gathers both groups to Himself. Note, the issue is that only believers are gathered together with him. Some of those believers will be Jewish, while the vast majority will be Gentiles. This group will then be taken to heaven with Christ.

During the next 7 years, a terrible time of tribulation will take place on the earth. The only people left behind will be unbelievers. Some of these unbelievers will be Jewish, the vast majority will be Gentiles. God will select and seal 144,000 Jews for the special purpose of proclaiming Jesus as the Savior of mankind. These Jewish evangelists will preach Christ and convert a great many people, Jews and Gentiles alike, to Christ. Terrible times await believers in this 7-year period. Many will lose their lives to the Antichrist. The price of being a believer in this future time period is almost certain death.

Following this 7-year period Christ will personally return to the earth to rule from Jerusalem. There are many events that occur in connection with this second part of His return, too much to go into detail here.

64 posted on 09/24/2003 1:58:15 PM PDT by music_code (Atheists can't find God for the same reason a thief can't find a policeman.)
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To: SmokyGeo
Touché my friend!
83 posted on 09/25/2003 5:34:00 AM PDT by BellStar
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