Republicans are more hateful to one another than they are to democrats. As we all know there are a lot of "r's" that should be "d's" and visa versa. In my home state, the r's are more liberal than a lot of d's! Those on this thread that delude themselves about the split in the republican party do so at their own risk. For instance, take any social issue you like, the d's caucus and come out knowing how the vote will be on that one issue, they just make sure the final vote moves the agenda to the left. R's fight it out in public and move nothing to the right. We at times, as conservatives, believe we are making a deference but in the end we get nothing. To go along with a RINO is to go along with the lefts agenda. That's where principle comes into play. I personally would never sell my "principles" for a moderate republican, he/she is worst than any democrat because he/she is standing behind the republican party while at the same time opposing the agenda of his/her party. I was never that excited about GW. I had verified long before the election that he was a social conservative but a fiscal moderate. In the end I knew that was probably the most popular among most American's and even though we move to the left on spending I also knew that it was the only way a republican could get elected. Its too bad that we have to go down this road but there is no recourse but to hit bottom. I don't post too much here and have considered leaving altogether, especially after the fight over the Kalifonia boondogle, I just hope and pray that if the r's don't get behind McClintock than let the d's have the mess of their own making, Rrnold will make no difference.