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The Demise of Public Education (Cathryn Crawford)
Washington Dispatch ^
| September 26, 2003
| Cathryn Crawford
Posted on 09/26/2003 7:15:43 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds
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To: aristeides
I'm a product of 9 years of homeschooling, 2 of private schooling (high school), and no public school.
My parents are homeschooling both my little brothers, as well.
To: jmc813
Probably not very long. They do make things interesting, though.
To: only1percent
the problem is irresponsible and/or powerless parents. I agree. What's your solution to this problem?
To: Scenic Sounds
What percentage of kids do you think have parents that can perform that function these days? Better than government school teachers? Oh, maybe 95%.
To: *Education News
BTTT
read later...
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posted on
09/26/2003 7:45:09 AM PDT
by
EdReform
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To: 1Old Pro
The truth alert meter reads 100% with this statement.I agree. I've also noticed an increase in public hostility to public education. I'm not clear as to all the reasons, but it's out there.
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posted on
09/26/2003 7:46:51 AM PDT
by
Scenic Sounds
("Don't mind people grinnin' in your face." - Son House)
To: aristeides
Better than government school teachers? Oh, maybe 95%.Why do you suppose they don't?
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posted on
09/26/2003 7:47:54 AM PDT
by
Scenic Sounds
("Don't mind people grinnin' in your face." - Son House)
To: aristeides
"Better than government school teachers? Oh, maybe 95%."
That's laughable. I wouldn't trust 95 percent of the parents
I personally know to teach my child.
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posted on
09/26/2003 7:47:57 AM PDT
by
kegler4
To: kegler4
And you trust government school teachers?
To: BeerSwillr
"Teachers are no longer concerned with whether or not their students have a firm grasp of the core curriculum they are more concerned about whether or not they offend someone with their curriculum. Instructors must embrace every childs opinion no matter how wrong it may be - in order to teach them in a politically correct manner."
I too can't stand these broadbrush articles. While it is true that the textbooks are PC (probably true for many homeschooling books as well) and it's also true there are public schools I wouldn't send my children to, the teachers at the publics wchool my kids attend are VERY concerned about a firm grasp of the core curricuclum. And I can tell you that they don't embrace every child's opinion, either.
This article is a pile of crap, at least as it applies (or doesn't apply) to our local school district.
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posted on
09/26/2003 7:53:21 AM PDT
by
kegler4
To: aristeides
"And you trust government school teachers?"
Every one of them? Of course not. But guess what? I make it my business to get to know my children's teachers and to monitor what they're learning. Yes, we've had some pretty mediocre ones but also some excellent ones. My children also get an education about life at home and at church. I don't leave that up to the schools.
Do you trust all of the parents you've ever met? I sure don't.
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posted on
09/26/2003 7:57:28 AM PDT
by
kegler4
To: kegler4
I wrote that article based somewhat on an education class that I am taking at my university. Remember, this is a class of mostly future teachers, and I was overwhelmed by the liberal agenda that the professor was pushing. Now, this is a woman that by her own admission spent 30 years teaching in secondary education, and she was very intent on making us understand that we must not only teach, but also be a social services center (direct quote) for the children. I wasnt as surprised at her ideas this is a liberal school as the fact that everyone in the class except me agreed with her. And these are the future teachers. And this is Texas, not California or Massachusetts. The class went on to spend an hour discussing all the appropriate social programs that public schools should provide.
These aren't administrators we are discussing in this class - these are teachers.
To: Cathryn Crawford
Empower responsible parents to escape schools dominated by the children of irresponsible parents.
In other words, geographically selective but FULLY FUNDED vouchers. (I see very little value in these $2,000 per year grants; a voucher should be for the full pro-rata portion of the school budget, which will be sufficient to fund a supply of new parochial and independent school seats.)
In addition to helping poor but responsible parents, these policies will also encourage middle-class parents to move into or stay in urban areas, rather than feeling forced to move to the suburbs. This will have a variety of social, economic, and environmental benefits.
To: kegler4
This article is a pile of crap, at least as it applies (or doesn't apply) to our local school district. Read the article again... she isn't crapping on your school district or any other locally controlled district. She's taking on the public education system that is failing America as a whole.
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posted on
09/26/2003 8:02:22 AM PDT
by
pgyanke
(We wouldn't have to fight our War on Terror if Islam would take out its own trash!)
To: only1percent
In other words, geographically selective but FULLY FUNDED vouchers. (I see very little value in these $2,000 per year grants; a voucher should be for the full pro-rata portion of the school budget, which will be sufficient to fund a supply of new parochial and independent school seats.)How would you feel about a system that allowed schools to accept vouchers only as full payment?
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posted on
09/26/2003 8:04:30 AM PDT
by
Scenic Sounds
("Don't mind people grinnin' in your face." - Son House)
To: Cathryn Crawford
I am way in favor of vouchers. Besides the benifits you cited, I think by moving more students to private schools the NEA deathgrip would be loosened.
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posted on
09/26/2003 8:07:17 AM PDT
by
MileHi
To: Cathryn Crawford
That inclusion class must be a real shocker.
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posted on
09/26/2003 8:08:01 AM PDT
by
patton
(I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
To: patton
Thankfully, it's the only one I'm taking. I'd drop it, but I have to have the hours for my scholarship.
To: Temple Owl
ping
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posted on
09/26/2003 8:12:11 AM PDT
by
Tribune7
To: Scenic Sounds
The only viable solutions that can be seen are either complete privatization of the public school system, or, barring that, school vouchers. In the long run, only the complete, absolute abolition of socialized education -- with extreme prejudice -- will solve the problems identified in the article. Socialism cannot work in theory in education any better than it can work in theory anywhere else -- which is why it is such a miserable failure in practice in everything it touches.
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posted on
09/26/2003 8:14:41 AM PDT
by
kesg
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