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To: curmudgeonII
The conditions described in bold in the article were prevalent throughout the world, the Muslims had no lock on it. The Christians have been even less tolerant at times. The Jews were tolerant because they had no power or country of their own.
I would like people – particularly the radical Christian right – to recognize that early Christians were as ruthless as any other group and instead of hiding in a fantasy goody-goody dream world admit their violent roots.
It would not be a bad thing, and if the deception is removed there would be one less reason for the interfaith bickering. Religion could be removed from the equation. Instead of some trying to make a New Crusade out of the current dangerous situation, the situation could be approached rationally.
There are a large number of radical evil people who are trying their best to cause us harm. If we remove religion from the equation maybe the radical Muslim organizations will not have it so easy when it comes to recruitment, as fear of a New Crusade is one of their selling points.
43 posted on 09/27/2003 3:31:07 PM PDT by R. Scott
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To: R. Scott
interesting, but...
If one declares war on another, does that other have to aknowledge that declaration to be in a state of active hostilities?
If we "remove religion" from our understanding of this conflict, will that matter to the other who has declared war on us and shall NOT "remove religion" from HIS understanding of this conflict?
Does calling a religion which has at its doctrinal roots a call to worldwide carnage and violent conversion a "religion of peace" somehow magically make it so?
48 posted on 09/27/2003 3:39:58 PM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: R. Scott
"I would like people – particularly the radical Christian right – to recognize that early Christians were as ruthless as any other group and instead of hiding in a fantasy goody-goody dream world admit their violent roots."

Early Christians ruthless??

What are you talking about?

The early Christians were primarily part of Judiasm, and later came from the Roman Empire. There was also a strong ethos of pacifism that is associated with the early church. I haven't heard of much violence in the early church so what are you referring to?
65 posted on 09/27/2003 6:41:39 PM PDT by JohnSmithee
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To: R. Scott
The conditions described in bold in the article were prevalent throughout the world, the Muslims had no lock on it. The Christians have been even less tolerant at times. The Jews were tolerant because they had no power or country of their own.

Except for the period between Exodus and the Diaspora. Take a look at the Old Testement (Torah) for how the existing inhabitants of Israel (the Canaanites) were treated. As in exterminated down to the children and farm animals

123 posted on 10/03/2003 2:16:31 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === (Finally employed again! Whoopie))
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