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Homeschooling Headache
Termlimits.org ^ | 9/19/03 | Jacob

Posted on 09/28/2003 9:42:37 AM PDT by pabianice

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To: bd476
Hmmm... I didn't really do any soldering until 7th grade shop class...

I never tried building my own telescope - we bought a computer-guided Meade for christmas a few years back that the kids love, but maybe building one just for fun would be interesting. It certainly would provide a good lesson in optics etc...
61 posted on 09/28/2003 7:42:14 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (I like my women like I like my coffee - Hot, and in a big cup)
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To: pabianice
"children don't always get the rigorous structure and up-to-date educational techniques, which are applied in public schools."

I think he meant to say "rigorous beatings."

62 posted on 09/29/2003 5:42:09 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: pabianice
On the other hand, he worries that "children don't always get the rigorous structure and up-to-date educational techniques, which are applied in public schools."

I'll leave the "structure" to be commented on by others, but...

Homeschoolers deliberately avoid the "up-to-date" educational techniques - We'd rather use a teching technique that works!!!

63 posted on 09/29/2003 5:46:35 AM PDT by MortMan
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To: netmilsmom
My hubby says that the vast majority of students in the country are Public Schooled.

Yes. Around 90%. But, so what? 90% of all kids are watching "Sponge Bob Squarepants."

I say that that trend is greatly changing.

For homeschooling. Estimates range from 1-2% of all school age children, up from 0 or statistically insignificant ten years ago.

More kids are homeschooled, charter schooled and private schooled.

No big movement to private education. Charter schools are relatively new.

He says no way. Does someone have the stats on this and how many of these kids go to college?

I don't know about college, but test-wise, homeschoolers rank higher than private schoolers, at around the 85th percentile.

But that's not why we homeschool. We homeschool first so that our children can learn about God, secondly so that they can learn how to think.

64 posted on 09/29/2003 5:48:13 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: dawn53
I want him to go to college for an education, not for an experience.

Good post (#34)

65 posted on 09/29/2003 6:07:45 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: SpookBrat
I figure 13 years of my life were wasted being locked up in a prison.

And at 18 you're thrown, bound and gagged, onto the street of life. It's sad that children are imprisoned for 13 years for having committed the crime of being born.

66 posted on 09/29/2003 6:10:55 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: mtbopfuyn
My father graduated from a university at 16 and passed the NY bar at the age of 21 with a perfect score (after first entering medical school.) He was educated in a small private religious boarding school which essentially was tutorial by the small size of classes, not classroom oriented as we think of classes. This approach was the preferred way of educating for centuries. Also home education goes back thousands of years and has been the standard and the backbone of civilization. It is only our brainwashed, NEA influenced culture that thinks it is abberant.
67 posted on 09/29/2003 10:23:12 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Ogmios
Yes homeschoolers do score higher.
68 posted on 09/30/2003 9:24:35 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool (returned) (If history has shown us anything, darwinism/evolution is seriously wrong.)
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To: dawn53
Our local community college allows homeschoolers to take classes, but it is certainly not free. They pay $115 per credit for the courses. But it can be a bargain because that is certainly cheaper than the State colleges, so taking a few courses before you head off to a 4 yr. college helps lower the overall tuition bill.
69 posted on 09/30/2003 9:39:27 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SpookBrat
Speaking of Chemistry.....I made a 36 on my final exam and that was with cheating. I should have sat by someone smarter.

Growing up and going to Catholic elementary school, I learned to cover my paper during tests so as not to tempt anyone into cheating off my paper.

When I was in Geometry class in 10th gr. I sat in a back corner with several friends. Once the teacher made a remark that they could be doing better because I did so well. They said "How can we, she covers her paper during tests!". The teacher just laughed and said that's not exactly what she meant!

70 posted on 09/30/2003 9:49:54 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SpookBrat
We'll start Algebra next year.

Check out Harold R. Jacobs's Elementary Algebra. Our kids really enjoyed that book.

71 posted on 09/30/2003 9:51:51 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: goodseedhomeschool (returned)
Hello again, I think that I saw you on another thread.

Yes, statistically Homeschoolers always score higher, I believe it is due to the parents personal touch with their children.

The child wishes to please the parent, and the parent wishes for their child to excel, and the parent actually cares about the future of the child, unlike the teacher in a public school, who basically moves onto another set of students the next year.

Homeschooling is the best thing for the child, and the best thing for the parent, not only does the child learn as they need to, the parent/child relationship grows as well.

If I ever have children, it is a little late for that, but you never know, I will try my hardest to make sure that I am able to homeschool them.
72 posted on 09/30/2003 10:26:03 PM PDT by Ogmios
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To: amom
Thought you might like to see this. Be sure to check out commentary on the thread about 15 year olds in college. Pretty mind bending!
73 posted on 09/30/2003 10:49:04 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (America, WE LOVE YOU! And our love is great enough to hold you eternally victorious in the Light!)
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To: SuziQ
Yes, we are very fortunate to have the program in place that allows free tuition. Basically, a 10-12th grader could earn 90 credit hours (15 per term, and more than 90 if they attended summer session), free of charge. However, only about 60 are transferable to other universities, but now that this college offers 4 year degrees, if a student were to choose one of the degrees they offer, about 3/4 of their college tuition would be free.


If the student goes on to another state university they can also qualify for a Bright Futures scholarship that pays most of their tuition, that is if their grades and SAT score are sufficient.
74 posted on 10/01/2003 3:39:25 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: dawn53
Massachusetts used to have the Dual/Enrollment program, but with the recession in 2000, the state budget couldn't support it anymore. We may use the Community College anyway, our daughter was interested in taking Psychology, and maybe Sociology, so she could do those at the CC, we're not sure yet. We were going to use it for lab sciences, but we decided to buy a microscope and go in with another family for supplies to do the labs together at home. It looks like that might pan out ok.
75 posted on 10/01/2003 6:46:56 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
LOL
76 posted on 10/03/2003 6:54:53 PM PDT by SpookBrat
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To: pabianice
"See the problem [with home schooling]? Robert Rader does. He's the executive director of the Connecticut Association of Boards of Education."

Here's more proof that home schooling is simply substandard and such a glaring failure. You just can't afford an "Executive Director of a Board of Education" at home. How can a kid possibly learn anything without The Standardized Massive Institutional Bureaucracy™ ?

77 posted on 10/03/2003 7:06:45 PM PDT by HighWheeler
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To: HighWheeler
The Standardized Massive Institutional Bureaucracy™

We plan to institute a SMIB next school year so we more closely follow the government school model. At the same time, we'll incorporate the standard government school smut and scum, too.

78 posted on 10/03/2003 7:19:36 PM PDT by FourPeas (Syntax, schmintax)
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To: mtbopfuyn
I was dual enrolled in college and government school when I was 16. The atmosphere was completely different than high school -- in a good way. For the most part, students were there because they wanted to be, not because they were told to be. Although most of my classmates didn't know I was 16, those who did treated me with respect. My experience, as a child, was a positive one.
79 posted on 10/03/2003 7:26:01 PM PDT by FourPeas (Syntax, schmintax)
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