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Another temptation for terrorists: homemade EMP weapons
Popular Mechanics ^ | Sept 2001 | Jim Wilson

Posted on 09/28/2003 10:58:01 AM PDT by Psalm118

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We have been warned, I guess...(groooaaaannnn....)

BTW check out the excellent illustrations on the Website.

1 posted on 09/28/2003 10:58:01 AM PDT by Psalm118
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To: Psalm118
Popular Mechanics is now in the business of giving detailed instructions to terrorists in how to build devices to destroy civilization?

Maybe this sort of thing increases their current circulation, but it could be very damaging to future sales if civilization vanishes, no?
2 posted on 09/28/2003 11:03:27 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: sourcery; Ernest_at_the_Beach
ping
3 posted on 09/28/2003 11:04:50 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Psalm118
Pure unadulterated nonsense.

The article fails to mention that the range of these so-called poor-mans EMP weapons is very, very small. That would mean that these devices would have to be deployed WITHIN a facility to do any damage at all. EMP weapons with any decent range are too large and way too sophisticated to be of any use to terrorists.

Our own government used to have to use a nuke to get enough available power for decent EMP ranging.

So, relax.

4 posted on 09/28/2003 11:04:54 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Psalm118
Hasn't this been debunked? Something about lack of range I think.
5 posted on 09/28/2003 11:06:12 AM PDT by palmer (/sarcasm)
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To: palmer
Yes, in fact it was debunked in post 4.
6 posted on 09/28/2003 11:07:16 AM PDT by palmer (D'oh!)
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To: Psalm118
This was the only real world weapon that humans in the movie the Matrix had against their machine enemy.

Interesting article. Scary as Hell too.

7 posted on 09/28/2003 11:09:11 AM PDT by bicycle thug (Fortia facere et pati Americanum est.)
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To: Psalm118
Are there instructions on how to shield electronics?

8 posted on 09/28/2003 11:09:49 AM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: Psalm118
2 year old article. Could be a bit dated.
9 posted on 09/28/2003 11:10:25 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort (Never attribute to malice what can satisfactorily be explained by stupidity.)
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To: Pukin Dog
"The article fails to mention that the range of these so-called poor-mans EMP weapons is very, very small. That would mean that these devices would have to be deployed WITHIN a facility to do any damage at all. EMP weapons with any decent range are too large and way too sophisticated to be of any use to terrorists.

Our own government used to have to use a nuke to get enough available power for decent EMP ranging.

So, relax."

Okay boss, I'm relaxed...

...well...I AM TRYIN!

Now tell me what about going under some transmission line way way out in the boonies and firing one of 'em crackers at the overhead lines?. Still a dud, you say?.

10 posted on 09/28/2003 11:14:38 AM PDT by Psalm118 (Isaiah 26:3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on Thee, because he trusteth i)
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To: Psalm118
"Now tell me what about going under some transmission line way way out in the boonies and firing one of 'em crackers at the overhead lines?. Still a dud, you say?."

And didn't the big NE power outage last month start with just a few lines somewhere?

11 posted on 09/28/2003 11:23:30 AM PDT by paulsy
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To: Psalm118
Yes, still a dud. Too much attenuation on those lines for the surge to travel far.
12 posted on 09/28/2003 11:27:47 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Psalm118
Wanted:
Tight-focus unidirectional EMP device to disrupt obnoxious neighbors' stereo. Not necessary to destroy circuitry but functional disruption a must. Most parts need to be obtainable at retail outlets.
13 posted on 09/28/2003 11:34:15 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (deport deport deport deport deport deport deport deport deport deport deport...)
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No, it was a series of problems on different lines over a 4 hour period. HMMMMMMMMMM.......
14 posted on 09/28/2003 11:35:25 AM PDT by Lokibob
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To: Cicero
"Maybe this sort of thing increases their current circulation . . ."

Good one!

15 posted on 09/28/2003 11:53:00 AM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Psalm118
The effective radius of the largest proposed non nuclear EMP device is only a few hundred meters. It would take a saturation attack with thousands of weapons at once to take out even one city.

So9

16 posted on 09/28/2003 12:41:18 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (The voices tell me to stay home and clean the guns.)
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You don't need to take out the entire city!

set one off atop the empire State bldg? wall street area?

One atop the tallest bldg in any city would be enough to cause massive damage and sheer terror.

Mission accomplished on the cheap!
17 posted on 09/28/2003 12:45:49 PM PDT by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: Leroy S. Mort; Cicero
Popular Mechanics is now in the business of giving detailed instructions to terrorists in how to build devices to destroy civilization?
2 year old article. Could be a bit dated.

But Popular Science just published a newer article that outlines how this technology can be applied to destroy our economy!

Making Small Change Smaller

The art of shrinking coins using copper coils, magnetic fields and enough energy to power a small city.


PUCKER MONEY
Five thousand joules shrinks most coins to about
half their normal size, surface details vividly intact.
(Photograph by Jeff Sciortino)

by Theodore Gray
Popular Science
October 2003

I remember driving past a fraternity house when I was a teenager and wondering why I could tell instantly that someone was playing the drums live, not on a stereo. Live drums, I realized, have a sharper attack than any electronic reproduction, and the distinction is obvious to the drums in our ears. But shouldn't it be possible to hit a speaker cone with a magnetic field just as hard as you can hit a drum with a stick?

It turns out it is, but frat boys simply don't have the technology. Engineers, on the other hand, can potentially go way beyond annoying the neighbors should they choose to get involved in the sport of hitting things really hard with magnetic fields. Take, for example, my friend Bert Hickman, a retired electrical engineer living outside Chicago: He rather enjoys using magnetic force to smash coins to roughly half their normal size. (He then sells them on eBay, of course.)

Bert's high-voltage equipment takes up most of his screened-in porch (from the looks of things, his wife drew a line at the sliding door—there's a clear border between tidy suburban house and chaotic suburban lab). Bert begins the coin-shrinking process by wrapping a quarter in copper wire and bolting the leads to copper bus bars, which are connected, by way of a triggered spark gap, to a 600-pound bank of 12,000-volt capacitors. A bulletproof blast shield encloses the coin and coil, and a high-voltage power supply charges up the capacitors. The only thing holding back the several thousand joules of energy stored in the capacitors is the tiny space between the spark gap's two brass discs.

Pressing a switch triggers the spark gap, which releases the entire charge through the coil in 25 millionths of a second. This creates a huge magnetic field, which induces a current and then a magnetic field inside the coin, which in turn pushes back against the field outside. The repulsion force between these two fields crushes the metal, instantly taking a quarter down to the size of a dime. A large amount of energy discharged in a short amount of time usually entails an explosion, and in this case the copper coil is blown apart with a brilliant flash and a satisfying bang. And, yes, the report is sharper than any drum, proving that you really can hit something as hard with magnetic force as you can with a drumstick.

Bert happily takes custom orders by mail (he charges a shrinking fee, though —visit www.teslamania.com for info). "Clad" U.S. coins, such as quarters, work best—they contain a conductive copper core sandwiched between a nickel-copper alloy—but most metal currencies will do the trick. Just don't send him your 1937 three-legged buffalo nickel by mistake.


18 posted on 09/28/2003 12:47:43 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Pukin Dog
But could it destroy, say an obnnoxiously loud 'boom boom' type car stereo as it was passing my house?

Just asking for no reason....honest.

L

19 posted on 09/28/2003 12:49:56 PM PDT by Lurker ("To expect the government to save you is to be a bystander in your own fate." Mark Steyn)
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To: Lurker
Now that it could do. Worth an investment if you ask me.
20 posted on 09/28/2003 12:55:00 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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