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To: jwalsh07
This from somebody who has trouble distinguishing between a Dunkin Donuts rival and 1st Amendment Speech?

1st Amendment? In the context of a college?

FR has become a sentiment dump. People like you will go to any length, substitute one issue for another, use every reidiculous argument if you ever say that a political enemy may be right on occasion. G-d help this country.

45 posted on 09/28/2003 5:29:38 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark
I find you overwhelmingly conceited. Let's look at the reported sequence of events, shall we?

"First [she] told me this was discrimination and we weren't allowed to charge different prices to different races, she then instructed us to take down the posters and remove the price list," Zuetel said. "I said I was going to call my lawyer and get his opinion on whether or not we could have that price list in place in accordance with our free expression rights. He suggested that we change the prices to be suggested prices. The Dean of Students said we couldn't even sell the donuts at suggested retail prices because it's still discrimination.

"We talked, I told her my position, she told me hers, then we took down the signs with the prices," said Zuetel.

Gee, let's think about this... Even when the student representative offered to make the prices non-binding, the Dean of Students still said no.

Ms. Peterson's actions speak for themselves. She objected to the bake sale not because of your vaunted "illegal trade practices," but because she objected to the statement they were making. If it were simply a matter of objecting to the selling of Krispy Kreme donuts, she would've told them that was the issue and would've allowed them to bring their own baked goods to sell instead. If it were simply a matter of objecting to the differing prices, then changing the poster to read "suggested" would've solved the issue. No, instead she shut it down wholesale as "discriminatory."

Displaying a poster with "suggested" prices that are not actually binding on the sale itself- an alternative the student representative was willing to abide- is pure speech. And the fact that Ms. Peterson wouldn't even agree to this alternative shows that it is the speech, not the trade, that she was shutting down. Thus, I believe it was an appropriate incident to share with my list. UCI is a public institution to my knowledge, and thus the First Amendment applies.

I don't know who you think you are, troll, but I have thought about this, obviously a great deal more than you.

62 posted on 09/28/2003 7:29:44 PM PDT by Hobsonphile (Art should celebrate God's creation. Writers should love humanity in all its forms.)
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To: TopQuark
1st Amendment? In the context of a college?

You've now descended into the realm of the demented. Are you suggesting that public universities are empowered to ignore the first amendment of the US Constitution at their whim?

65 posted on 09/29/2003 5:38:28 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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