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France in Declinism
International Herald Tribune | October 2, 2003 | John Vinocur

Posted on 10/02/2003 7:21:07 AM PDT by the_greatest_country_ever

For its intellectuals, France falters by John Vinocur
Thursday, October 2, 2003

  Paris- A growing sense of France's decline as a force in Europe has developed here.

The idea's novelty is not the issue itself. Rather it is that for the first time in a half century that the notion of a rapid descent in France's influence is receiving wide acknowledgment within the French establishment.

At its most hurtful and remarkable, and yet perhaps its most honest, there is the start of acceptance by segments of the French intellectual community that French leadership, as it is constituted now, is not something Europe wants - or France merits.

Several current books, three on the bestseller lists, have focused discussion on the country's incapacities, rigidities and its role, they say, in the context of the Iraq war, in dividing the Western community and fracturing notions of Europe's potential unity.

The books, with titles that translate to phrases like "France in Free Fall" or "French Arrogance," are merciless in their accusations of the fantasy-driven ineffectualness of French foreign policy and the extent of the country's economic breakdown.

Or they more specifically target what one of books, "Le Pouvoir du Monde," by Bernard Poulet, regards as the implosion of the newspaper Le Monde, mirror of the French establishment, from one-time symbol of rectitude to self-appointed "universal mentor and Great Inquisitor"; or what another, essentially a short essay, called "Au Nom de l'Autre" by Alain Finkielkraut, contends is the rise in France of a new kind of anti-Semitism in proportions greater than anywhere else in Europe.

Together, they project the image of a decadent France, adrift from its brilliant past, incapable of inspiring allegiance or emulation and without a constructive, humanist plan for the future.

Of all the books, the current No. 2 on the bestseller list of L'Express, "La France Qui Tombe," by Nicolas Baverez, has been the focus of unusual attention. Baverez, a practicing attorney and economist who has a strong place in the Paris establishment, argues that France's leadership hates change. Rather, it "cultivates the status quo and rigidity" because it is run through the connivance of politicians, civil servants and union officials, bringing together both the left- and right-wing elites.

They are described as mainly concerned with preserving the failed statist system that protects their jobs and status.

Although he has little patience with the American role in the world (it is branded unilateral, imperial and unpredictable, yet flexible and open to change) Baverez charges that the failure of French policy on Iraq and Europe - resisting the United States with nothing to offer in exchange, and attempting to force the rest of Europe to follow its lead - "crowns the process of the nation's decline" and leaves France in growing diplomatic isolation everywhere.

Over the past year, said Bavarez, "French diplomacy has undertaken to broaden the fracture within the West, and duplicate American unilateralism on the European scale by its arrogant dressing down of Europe's new democracies.

It has sustained a systematically critical attitude that flees concrete propositions in favor of theoretical slogans exalting a multipolar world or multilateralism."

As for Europe, Bavarez maintains that France has been discredited by its reticence to transfer any kind of meaningful sovereignty to the central organization, its resistance to giving up its advantages in the area of agricultural policy and its disregard for the directives and rules of the European Union executive commission.

He does not stop there.

Of a united Europe, Bavarez said, France has "ruined what might have remained of a common foreign and security policy, deeply dividing the community and placing France in the minority."

His country was at the edge of marginalization in Europe and the world, he claimed, because of its "verbal pretense of having real power" that is "completely cut off from its capacity for influence or action."

In a real sense, none of this is new. But this time, the provenance is a respected establishment figure talking, so to speak, from the belly of the beast. The echo has been striking within in national debate.

Over the years, foreign journalists, free of establishment pressures, have made Bavarez's points one by one without denting French public discourse. Talk circulated during the presidential election campaign last year about French decline, coming largely from Jacques Chirac, but it was basically dismissed as political taunts aimed at the Socialist government of Prime Minister Lionel Jospin.

Now, in response to the Bavarez book, there is public rage from the Chirac camp, which the Bavarez book charges with having neither the courage nor the competence to confront the basic problems.

But the density of Bavarez's factual argumentation, bolstered by the presence of the other books, all treating France's pride-of-rank and French conceits with brutal disrespect, have given the notion of French decline a legitimacy, reality and currency that it lacked before in public debate.

Alain Duhamel, perhaps the most consensual of France's mainstream political commentators, has praised Bavarez for launching "a legitimate debate on a subject that merits one: French decline."

He said it touched "a sensitive point in the national subconscious that set off an intellectual hullabaloo."

An ardent advocate of limited surrender of French sovereignty so that the EU can become the vector of French worldwide ambitions - he too has written a new book whose title translates to France in Disarray - Duhamel acknowledges that France no longer pulls Europe along behind it, although he insists Europe will not advance without France.

Indeed, Le Monde, which normally makes French ambitions, or distress about their failures, synonymous with Europe's, made some rare admissions this week about the French descent in Europe's eyes.

Daniel Vernet, a former senior editor of the newspaper, wrote, "We often irritate our partners because too frequently we have the tendency to want to impose our views, or only to consider as truly European those positions that conform to a French vision, however much in the EU minority it may be."

That resulted in a dilemma without an obvious exit, Vernet said. "The European partners don't want to hear about European policy independent from the United States," he wrote. "So, either France acts alone, and, regardless of what's claimed, its influence remains limited. Or it seeks a common denominator with its partners and it has to give up its ambitions."

Even Chirac may have given a sign that he understands the changing vision of France's real possibilities.

In two major speeches on world affairs since the end of the summer, he dropped any references to multipolarity, the French notion of a world of competing poles with Europe set up as a rival pole to the United States.

In the sense that they project the picture of a country that has lost its way, the other books complemented the Bavarez thesis and set the tone of discussion.

In "Ouest contre Ouest," by Andre Glucksmann, one of the few leading French intellectuals to challenge the country's position on the Iraq war, France is described as a nation, with others in Europe, that fled the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, on the United States in panic and attempted to set up a sterile biosphere away from the world's realities.

The book, also a bestseller, maintains that this flight from confronting trouble carried with it an attempt to create two opposing notions of the West: a serene Europe, sheltered from terrorist kamikazes, and a warlike, imperialist, autistic United States.

Glucksmann wrote that the central question of the future was not hegemony or multipolarity, the key French terms illustrating the Chirac government's seeming obsession about the United States and its desire to counter the Americans, but civilization versus nihilism, and whether the West together could make a fight to protect civilization.

Glucksmann believes that France's leadership has wanted to bring Russia into its project to counter the United States, with France promising in the bargain a return of Russia's lost rank and prestige.

"What does France gain?" he asked. "The possibility to continue its siesta. It would be up to Russia to counterbalance America, and keep the Islamist and Eastern hordes away. It would be the United States' job to chase down all the worldwide risks that we want to avoid.

Paris, in all this, gives itself the role of directing the world by proxy. Once the Euro-Asiatic bloc is cemented through the inspiration of the Elysée Palace, Washington, put in its just place and counterbalanced, will conform."

These messages converge with that of "L'Arrogance Française," by Romain Gubert and Emmanuel Saint-Martin, whose chapter and section headings - How France Lost Europe or Narcissistic Blindness - well sum up a book that holds that French foreign and European policy is guided by "obsessive concern with its standing, and terror in the face of its decline."

France's essential arrogance, the authors suggest, is in continuing to act as if the world community and its European partners do not comprehend that for the French leadership, the "EU serves as the means for France to recover its influence and to reconquer its lost power."

In this light, although the writers of "L'Arrogance Française" do not say so specifically, it is possible to see French policy in relationship to Iraq as a temporary instrumentalization of Germany in an effort to recapture European primacy - an attempt understood and foiled by the vast number of its NATO and EU partners.

Months later, the fact is, after Sweden's rejection of the euro (in part because of France's refusal to conform to the economic performance standards it set up itself for the currency's credibility), and the likely splintering of the EU into groups of several speeds without any semblance of a unified foreign or defense policy, France has come up empty.

The sum of the messages of the books, in French to the French, is that this vision of the country's current circumstances is not a French-bashing invention from afar, but a home truth.

For Bavarez, France is threatened with becoming a museum diplomatically and a transit center economically. To do anything about it, it must revive itself internally first, getting away from what he calls its "social statist model."

To advance, it must end the dominant role of a "public sector placed outside of any constraint requiring productivity or competitiveness."

The reform of the rest of French policy, based on genuine integration into Europe, should follow, he argues.

He recommends what he calls shock therapy, a forced march toward modernity that involves the risk of a clash among French interest groups and an end to the "sinister continuity" that unites the presidencies of François Mitterrand and Chirac in a kind of angry immobility.

But for Bavarez, and most of the other writers now gaining the nation's attention, the present reality is harsh for France.

"Overtaken by the democratic vitality and technological advance of the United State," Bavarez concludes, "downgraded industrially and challenged commercially by China and Asia, the decline of France is accelerating at the same rhythm as the vast changes in the world."  


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"Overtaken by the democratic vitality and technological advance of the United State," Bavarez concludes, "downgraded industrially and challenged commercially by China and Asia, the decline of France is accelerating at the same rhythm as the vast changes in the world."

France retains its status of world power on sheer unmitigated arrogance alone. I say; good bye and good riddance.

1 posted on 10/02/2003 7:21:07 AM PDT by the_greatest_country_ever
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2 posted on 10/02/2003 7:22:03 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: the_greatest_country_ever
France is the self-appointed leader of the third world.
3 posted on 10/02/2003 7:25:58 AM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (Celebrate Globalism)
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To: the_greatest_country_ever
It's easy to be a jerk when no one cares about you enough anymore to invade you.
4 posted on 10/02/2003 7:30:39 AM PDT by Starrgaizr
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To: the_greatest_country_ever
France just needs to be fully Islamisized
and tucked into her planned economy niche in the Euro Union
5 posted on 10/02/2003 7:35:05 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: the_greatest_country_ever
The International Herald Tribune is now wholly owned by the New York Times, and seen as its way to enter and influence the EU. So this is a remarkable column by a respected heavyweight to appear in that venue.

It is certainly accurate. What's new to me is that the French intellectual establishment is waking up to the position, and saying pretty much what we are saying. Chirac bet every cent of prestige that France has, and he has lost.

I would disagree that Chirac is revaluing the situation. Why would his wife publicly praise Hillary Clinton at the very moment that Laura Bush is paying a reconciliating visit? No, Chirac is hopeless. IMHO we should NOT forgive France until such time as they have proven themselves by shedding blood on our behalf, as we have so many times shed blood for them. And I don't mean some kind of token blocking force that never sees combat, such as they sent to Gulf War I.
6 posted on 10/02/2003 7:35:26 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
No, france IS the third world. The rest of the countries have surpassed them.
7 posted on 10/02/2003 7:44:24 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Cicero
What's new to me is what took the French so long to get it.
"Intellectual establishment" or otherwise. Shows you how steeped in tradition they've been. Blinders off at last?
8 posted on 10/02/2003 7:46:39 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: McGavin999
There are some places in France where it's still First World--namely in the southwest. Bordeaux is France's most productive agricultural region with wine and cognac production and Toulouse is the high-tech center of France, especially its aerospace industry. I think these parts of France would like to thumb their noses at the near-Communists that live in the Paris metro area. =)
9 posted on 10/02/2003 8:09:56 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: the_greatest_country_ever
"French diplomacy has undertaken to broaden the fracture within the West, and duplicate American unilateralism on the European scale by its arrogant dressing down of Europe's new democracies."

It's amazing; it seems that there are many in France who recognize the damage that Chirac and his adminisration has caused his country, and the world at large. And yet, here in America, we have liberals who praise the French position, accusing us of this very thing. While the US may not be the most loved country on the planet, we still are the most respected...something that cannot be said of France.
10 posted on 10/02/2003 8:15:46 AM PDT by cwb
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
I will do everything in my power to make sure France pays for its' anti-Americanism. I will not buy anything made in France; I will not visit France ever again; I will tell any French tourists to their face how despicable I think their actions have been.

FRANCE WILL PAY!!!!!! Cowardly b@$t@rd$.
11 posted on 10/02/2003 8:29:21 AM PDT by mallardx
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To: mallardx
I feel the same way.

Bring it...
12 posted on 10/02/2003 8:34:32 AM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (Celebrate Globalism)
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To: the_greatest_country_ever
Of a united Europe, Bavarez said, France has "ruined what might have remained of a common foreign and security policy, deeply dividing the community and placing France in the minority."

Perhaps I can help the french understand the PERMANENT change in U.S. sentiment:

1. french President Jacques Chirac, personally helped Iraq begin its nuclear program.
2. france assisted China in shipping raw materials for chemical weapons to Iraq through Syria.
3. french security services helped suppress opposition groups seeking to depose Saddam Hussein.
4. The french had supplied Iraq with precision switches for nuclear weapons.
5. french companies had resupplied Iraq with spare parts for fighter jets on the eve of the March 2003 invasion. Intelligence reports indicated that Iraq was able to obtain French military spare parts for its Mirage jets and Gazelle attack helicopters in violation of U.N. sanctions.
6. The french helped Iraqi officials escape U.S. capture by issuing them EU passports. The passports allowed the Iraqis to evade detection by U.S. military and intelligence agencies because they were EU travel documents.
7. Intelligence officials said France attempted to conclude an oil deal with Saddam's government days before U.S. military action began March 19.
8. french anti-aircraft weapons smuggled into Iraq prior to the war, the Roland 3 batteries, and Roland 5 shoulder-fired anti-air missiles. Reports have still not been denied that these systems were stamped '2002 date of manufacture.'
9. The french peddled disinformation against the Americans before the war -- this is a war for oil, Resolution 1441 does not authorize military action, George Bush is "cowboy," etc. -- at the very least, they now deserve some of their own.
10. The frogs proactively tried to get the African nations to vote against us in the U.N. by sending a french emissary to each sitting temporary Security Council member. Strong rumors of bribes and threats linger today.

Those countries who stood against us before the Iraq War are responsible for EVERY life lost in Iraq -- whether the lives be coalition lives or Iraqi lives. france, more than any other country, is responsible for all the deaths of our warriors.

france had an unemployment rate of 9.3% last month (April 03). It’s rising. Can we help them push it over 10%? 20%?. The new reality show on FOX this fall could be the marxists, socialists, and fundamentalist muslim imports (they are about 10% of the population and growing) burning paris to the ground. You can help:

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Gotta keep this alive. Share this link with all like minded family and friends. They are feeling the heat.

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13 posted on 10/02/2003 8:40:32 AM PDT by schaketo (White Devils for Al Sharpton in 2004... NE Chapter)
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To: the_greatest_country_ever
His country was at the edge of marginalization in Europe and the world, he claimed, because of its "verbal pretense of having real power" that is "completely cut off from its capacity for influence or action."

Oh I don't know, they can always threaten to send their one aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, that is if it doesn't fall apart leaving the harbor.

France's essential arrogance, the authors suggest, is in continuing to act as if the world community and its European partners do not comprehend that for the French leadership, the "EU serves as the means for France to recover its influence and to reconquer its lost power."

It was impossible to not comprehend for the aspiring Eastern European countries, when Chirac basically and publically told them to shut up when several of those countries signed a letter in support of the War on Iraq prior to the invasion. Chirac also very maladriotly hinted that they could be turned down from EU membership if they didn't toe his line. If you're going to act like a bully, you'd better have something to back it up with, and it seems that some French are finally getting the idea.

14 posted on 10/02/2003 8:44:31 AM PDT by xJones
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To: Cicero
The International Herald Tribune is now wholly owned by the New York Times, and seen as its way to enter and influence the EU. So this is a remarkable column by a respected heavyweight to appear in that venue.

Actually, John Vinocur writes these kind of articles on France a lot. To get a sense of it do a search under "Vinocur" on the IHT web site.

15 posted on 10/02/2003 10:17:00 AM PDT by untenured
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To: the_greatest_country_ever
There is no such thing as an "intellectual". Anyone can make up 5 dollar words. The only way you can give truth to their "existence", like with UFO's and Bigfoot, is if you believe them.
16 posted on 10/02/2003 11:03:18 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered.…©)
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To: schaketo
Those countries who stood against us before the Iraq War are responsible for EVERY life lost in Iraq

I think Saddam should get some of the blame.

17 posted on 10/02/2003 11:13:58 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: aristeides; marron; Grampa Dave
Bump.

I think Wes Clark still says we aren't nice enough to our "allies."
18 posted on 10/02/2003 2:12:08 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
L'Ouest contre l'Ouest is #19 on amazon.fr.
19 posted on 10/02/2003 2:24:10 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides
Michael Moore's "Stupid White Men" is at #14.
20 posted on 10/02/2003 2:43:08 PM PDT by Shermy
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