[randita]

John Loftus had some interesting things to say about this last night on Batchelor and Alexander-WABC. Loftus said that Wilson's wife was a NOC (I forget the acronym's meaning, but it is a highly secretive CIA agent who does not receive diplomatic immunity when overseas--they're basically hung out there to dry if they get into trouble is what I understood that to be). To "out" a NOC, Loftus said is near treasonous because it allows countries to go back and check hotel records, etc. and get lots of info about the NOC's activities. He said it is very serious.

Loftus also said scuttlebutt is that the initial leak to Novak came from Cheney's chief of staff (forget the name) and the confirmation came from Rove. But Novak has said the info didn't come from the WH, so don't know if this is accurate.

Also said was that Cheney's office had been intouch with Amb. Wilson several times to get him to back off the Niger story.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Novak was interviewed Wednesday afternoon on CNN and he said the White House was not the source of his tip and the woman in question was more of a clerk than an "agent."
Referring to the blather from a certain senator from New York, Novak said his remarks were, "Washington at its worst."
Guess he should know.

[steve50]

Loftus also said scuttlebutt is that the initial leak to Novak came from Cheney's chief of staff (forget the name) and the confirmation came from Rove. But Novak has said the info didn't come from the WH, so don't know if this is accurate.

Think the guy in the VP office is alleged to be Scooter Libby. One of the talking head shows had a fairly well know magazine reporter on last nite saying Cheney might not be on the ticket next time around, but didn't link the claim to this problem.

[Just mythoughts]

Who is John Loftus? Who sent Mr. Wilson a public person to go and gather intel about "yellowcake"?

Sorry until that is explained blaming the White House/ Cheney is nothing more than a diversion.

Mr. Wilson himself made his wife's name public in "02" so why was that not a crime?

Mr. Wilson placed into print and out of his own mouth what he wanted and that was to destroy President Bush.

How does one with that mindset get selected to go gather intel?

Did John Loftus explain these things?

The one little problem in "to out" someone one must be able to prove "INTENT". So this makes it all the easier to accuse, point fingers, knowing that they probably can never prove "INTENT" thus get everybody in an uproar cause of the haters of President Bush seek to destroy his credibility.

The one thing these scuttlebutters seem to be counting on is Novak keeping his mouth shut.

[visagoth]

NOC
Serving under what is referred to as "nonofficial cover" (NOC), CIA officers pose as American businessmen in friendly countries, from Asia to Central America to Western Europe. There, they recruit agents from the ranks of foreign officials and business leaders, pilfer secrets, and even conduct special operations and paramilitary activities.

[autoresponder]

B&A

Batchelor : "lib" Republican; See below re Arnold

Alexander : lib/dem "Arnold is a Nazi, attacked 6 women"

John Loftus : big dem

said Saddamm & kids were killed

self-promoter of his "insider" crud

[cookcounty]

"Loftus also said scuttlebutt is that the initial leak to Novak came from Cheney's chief of staff (forget the name) and the confirmation came from Rove. But Novak has said the info didn't come from the WH, so don't know if this is accurate.

Well thats one kind of scttlebutt. The scuttlebutt here is that Wilson himself did t ---which makes the most sense.