[Ichneumon]

"It is outrageous. Women have a right to be tired and if a woman is not in the mood, a man should respect that," Ms Bergat said. "When you sign a marriage certificate you don't surrender privacy and rights. She is declaring that women are chattels to be used at the man's whim."

What I strongly suspect Dr. Laura was *actually* saying wasn't "women have no right to refuse", it was probably more like "ladies, whenever possible, do your hardworking husband a loving favor even if it's not the first thing you feel like doing at the moment."

A man *should* respect it when his wife says "no", but Dr. Laura's point is probably that the wife shouldn't get in the habit of saying "no" more than she really needs to.

And of course, the same goes for men, who likewise should make every effort to be a good husband and father in all the ways they can.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

What I strongly suspect Dr. Laura was *actually* saying wasn't "women have no right to refuse", it was probably more like "ladies, whenever possible, do your hardworking husband a loving favor even if it's not the first thing you feel like doing at the moment."

That is what she was saying. The whole point of it was that spouses should do things that make their mates happy even they would rather do something else.

This, of course, works both ways and she talks about that too. But it makes so much more of a splash when you leave that part out.

[EuroFrog]

I think you are absolutely right, and I agree with you 100%.