[nopardons]

Can YOU refrain from posting personal insults/attacks, implications, and putting words in others' mouths, and talk about what I posted ?

I AM a woman. I am NOT a Muslim and a Muslim, would be offended if any none familial male even looked upon his wife's/daughters'/mother's/other female relative's ankle, let alone " groped " her. That Muslim crack only proves how little you understand about Muslims.

How many women came forward, IN PUBLIC, to accuse Clinton and did not hide behind annonimity ?

How many apologies did Clinton make in public ?

How do you know that the Arnold accusers are telling the truth ? And no, his apologu wasn't specific enough for that to be " proof " that all of these unnamed women are telling the truth.

Did you believe the spewings about President Bush taking a girl to Mexico for an abortion ? Did those printed accusations stop when a girl came forward, saying that this did not happen and that she NEVER even had sexual relations with him ? No, they didn't.

Do I approve of/ just ignore sexual harassment ? No, I don't. OTOH, actors and actresses, from the beginnings of time, have always had looser morals than the general public; which is why, until only recently they were looked down upon by society.

Do the testimonials, by many women he has been in films with, mean nothing at all to you ? Those women came out in public and in print, to say that he hadn't behaved inappropriately.

Do any of us know what Reagan did in Hollywood, on movie sets ? No, we don't. I am not accusing him of bad behaviors, but simply stating that we don't KNOW what he did. We do know that he impregnented Nancy prior to marrying her. We also know that he was divorced and as such, would have been completely unelectable a scant decade prior to his election of governor, because the public refused to elect divorced men back then.

[thoughtomator]

These are simply extra straws to break the camel's back. The camel was already heavily strained before the Week of Slime (as I shall hereafter refer to it). I am simply at a loss as to how anyone who can consider themselves conservative can continue to defend him.

Conservatives don't appreciate sexual harassment. Whatever Reagan or Bush might have done was consensual; I make no judgement about them. There is something fundamentally wrong with the state of mind of a person who can without a revolt of conscience grab a woman sexually without even implied consent. And these incidents aren't decades old... the most recent one is a mere 3 years in the past. That's not long enough to be convincing that a 20-year habit is over.

What you are arguing for is one standard for movie stars/politicians/famous people, and one standard for everyone else. Were any other man to engage in a single one of these incidents, he could be sued into the poorhouse.

There is way too much exception-making for Arnold. And it is completely illogical to expect him to be, in office, conservative in any way at all.

And what really makes me outraged is that given all this, so many so-called 'conservatives' are so wedded to their self-corruption that they STILL support Schwarzenegger over McClintock.