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On immigration (Good Read)
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/ ^ | October 4, 2003 | Richard D. Lamm

Posted on 10/04/2003 4:42:41 PM PDT by getget

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To: nosofar
Campesinos are the rural people, mostly farmers. Many of them are the illegals you see coming to work on farms here because they've been destroyed in Mexico.
81 posted on 10/05/2003 10:16:26 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Kenny Bunk
For the good of Mexico, I think we ought to end illegal immigration and start sending back our illegals.

That's what I think. It certainly isn't improving Mexico the way things are being done ---- it's headed for disaster, they're losing their would-be middle class very fast. Our leaders do whatever they can to keep the corrupt in power but that is just leading to worse outcomes in the future. We're allowing the Mexican government officials threaten and intimidate us but the tables should be turned, we should be telling them to straighten up fast ---- we can pull our dollars and collapse them if they don't obey.

82 posted on 10/05/2003 10:23:20 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: getget
On immigration

No. This is not about "immigration". This is about "illegal aliens".

Once we adopt the opposition's euphemisms, the battle becomes that much harder.

83 posted on 10/05/2003 10:33:56 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: FITZ
Our leaders do whatever they can to keep the corrupt in power but that is just leading to worse outcomes in the future.

The fear amongst our leaders must be fear that the mess in Mexico will finally boil over into revolution again. This time the players will not be indigenous "Pancho Villas." They will be more like the CHICOM funded and inspired oil-and-drug-wars of FARC, Sendero Luminoso, and Hector Chavez.

Starting to think very fondly of Emperor Maximilian ... again. We are rapidly reaching the point where there is no "nice way" in or out of the Mexican diaster.

84 posted on 10/06/2003 5:42:19 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: Polybius
No. This is not about "immigration". This is about "illegal aliens".

I could see how it can be about immigration --- many of the legal immigrants have no education, no job skills and end up being burdens on the tax payers. In my opinion a completely self-reliant illegal --- one who uses no government services at all --- including education and health care is less of a problem than those they're letting in legally who do. Immigration needs a total reform, we should only have immigrants who don't require welfare of any kind.

85 posted on 10/06/2003 6:11:00 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Kenny Bunk
We are rapidly reaching the point where there is no "nice way" in or out of the Mexican diaster.

I know ---- They've destroyed the village and rural way of life over there ---- but look at the crime rates in their big cities -- it is already a disaster. We're keeping Fox propped up but it's not doing his party any good ---- not that they've proved they can do a thing for Mexico anyway. It will be interesting to watch, I'm not sure much can be done anymore.

86 posted on 10/06/2003 6:14:25 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: getget

interesting article, it is so obvious that most people who replied to your article don't really know what they are talking about. First of all, what are these job Mexicans taking? McDonald's job, picking up grapes, apples from farms, or selling corn to the public? Are these the jobs everybody is complaining and crying about? If you knew that a U.S.A. dollar in Mexico equals 10 cents? With a dollar you can buy a meal for your family. But, i do agree that licenses should not be given to them. I don't agree with the fact that they buy a social security card just to work and affect someone's else credit. Why does everybody get intimidated by these people, they don't do nothing to you. Of course these people are unskilled; Mexico has no money because their money is worth nothing, too much crime, too much poverty, and pollution. Remember that half of the United States was part of Mexico, but because the need of money it was sold to American territory. Why nobody complains about Bush trying to help other countries, but if it's Mexico the subject everybody attacks it. Some of your repliers should now these people and research before they start talking meaningless things.


87 posted on 09/30/2004 5:45:06 PM PDT by DEMOCRATIC N WHAT
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