On immigration (Good Read)

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/ ^ | October 4, 2003 | Richard D. Lamm

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You can get about 4 grand a year in tax refunds (depending on the number of kids you have) without paying any taxes.

They call it a refund when they didn't pay anything to begin with. In other times, we would have called it THEFT.

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Geneva Convention definition of a refugee as someone forced to flee because of a well founded fear of persecution, be it religious, political or other.

[Libertarianize the GOP]

ping

[FITZ]

Yes --- the illegals are useful to the Mexican government's goal of becoming a completely parasitic one, surviving completely off the USA's economy. The problem for the future is that a parasitic economy is like one big welfare society. The workers leave the country and send money back to those who can't or won't work until they can get them over the border, then they don't send money back anymore. Of course many of these guys send money back just for a while, human nature takes it's course, they find a lover and forget the wife and kids back home. Mexico is losing control over it's crime problem in some areas makes our inner cities look nice and safe.

[iconoclast]

bump for later

[philetus]

"And still our Republican politicians insist on appeasement."

I don't doubt for a minute, that the politicians who insist on appeasement, are being paid off by big business that wants the "cheap labor".

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Globalization make the U.S more Dependant on the U.N !!

[FITZ]

Vicente Fox hates indians and poor people, so he sends them here. Like little slaves and servants, they work and send home the money which goes right into Fox's secret bank accounts.

He did get a whole lot richer ---- something like 30% richer since he's been president. There was an article in the Mexican paper --- El Diario which was condemning Fox's economic plan for Mexico. His plan is to do nothing for that economy just so that as many people will leave as possible to go to the USA, get our jobs and send money back as long as they will. He kills two birds with one stone that way --- he gets rid of the brown people for Mexico and they send money in to Mexico.

One flaw in his plan --- apparently some Mexicans are getting tired of it ---- because Fox's PAN party lost 25% of it's Congressional seats this past July. And Lopez Obrador is moving on up.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

American citizens want the American Dream too. Too bad it too moved overseas. China and India are currently enjoying it.

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Protection of refugees covers a wide field of activities. It begins, or rather should begin, immediately after the refugee has crossed the border of his country into a country of asylum. Is he within the mandate of the United Nations and "eligible" for the benefits of the Convention on the Status of Refugees written in 1951 and now ratified by fifteen parliaments? It is easy to see that in a decision on this vital point the United Nations Office for Refugees should already play a part. Otherwise, the newly arriving refugee will see his fate unilaterally decided by the authorities of the country in which he seeks asylum. In the course of the years, different procedures for establishing the "eligibility" of a refugee have been worked out between governments and our Office. They vary from leaving the decision in principle to our representation in the country concerned - as is the case in Belgium - to our having an observer on the national committee in charge of ruling on the eligibility of a refugee. Ever since the 1951 Convention came into force in April, 1954, the importance of cooperation between governments and our Office in matters of eligibility has increased. For the refugee a favorable decision means obtaining a reasonable "status", whereas an unfavorable decision would mean lasting uncertainty and perhaps an "illegal" existence, even expulsion. Moreover, a fair trial of the newly arriving refugee has become increasingly important, because (integration, into the economy of the country of asylum is possible only when the refugee has a legal status upon which to base his efforts to establish himself.

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VII. PREPARED FOR A CHANGING WORLD

274. Enhanced leadership and strategic management in the United Nations: As a result of these actions and recommendations, the Secretariat will have a leadership structure and work programme with four main sectors reflecting the Organization's primary strategic areas: peace and security; economic and social affairs; development cooperation; humanitarian affairs, with human rights as a cross-cutting issue. The Senior Management Group and the executive committees for each sector will promote greater coherence among the United Nations departments, programmes and funds and provide a framework for reform. The proposed appointment of a Deputy Secretary-General will enhance the ability of the Secretary-General to manage such challenges as cross-functional sectors and complex emergencies. The recommendation that the General Assembly might periodically adopt a focus for its work is aimed at enhancing its role in setting strategic directions and priorities for the United Nations.
http://www.unhchr.ch/html/hchr/unrefor.htm

[4.1O dana super trac pak]

Actually if you look at the welfare rates of legal immigrants you will understand why there is a backlash against legal immigrants as well. Legal immigration should be severely curtailed IMHO. The future of this country is in the balance.

[4.1O dana super trac pak]

I would really like to have a face to face chat with one of those policians one day.

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Yes thanks to Globalization make the U.S more Dependant on the U.N , N.G.O most of them are big business

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New World Order Rising? - Thoughts on the UN World Summit on Sustainable Development
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/743512/posts?page=10

[snippy_about_it]

Thanks for posting this getget.

Good read ping to you SAM.

[cyborg]

I disagree with you on one point. Legal immigrants being on welfare has nothing to do with this issue which is illegal aliens entering the US. I don't like anyone on welfare. However, if a person is paying taxes, they are paying into the system and like or not, welfare is an 'entitlement' to a legalized immigrant and a citizen.HOWEVER, I'd like to know why City of New York is advertizing the 'food card' to 'immigrants without fear'. Hello Bloomberg you useful idiot...

Anyway, I've not a problem with putting more regulations on legal immigration. That certainly would lower immigration numbers.

[cyborg]

When you do, please video tape the carnage so we can all play 'caption this' on FR please :-)

BTW, I always try to call the useful idiot NYC mayor every friday on his show...wonder why I can't get on?

[SAMWolf]

Bump! Thanks for the ping Snippy

[Alberta's Child]

The one problem I have with this article is that it examines immigration in a vacuum, without noting the devastating impact that the political/legal climate in the modern U.S. is going to have on the future of this nation.

A modern, affluent nation that kills more than a million unborn babies every year, and then allows more than a million illegal immigrants to cross the border every year, does not need "immigration reform" -- it needs a large-scale psychiatric examination for all 280 million of its people.

With each day that passes, I'm becoming more convinced that we're watching a slow-motion unraveling of this nation along the lines of the Tower of Babel story from the Old Testament.