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To: altayann
And you know this because...? You've personally talked to White House staff lately?

Because I am able to use my powers of deduction based on facts and reasoning.

Whose fact is this? Bob Novak's? Now there's a reliable source for you, a guy with no particular reason to be somewhat biased in his recollections.

No. As I plainly stated, that fact is Cliff May's. He stated that a Democrat told him about Plame's CIA employment status before Novak's column appeared. I heard May say it on television last week, and further, he posted it on "The Corner" over at National Review and I posted the link to it the day he reported this. So chew on that for a bit.

What matters is that a CIA operative has been exposed either through the malice or the sheer incomptence of administration officials and/or Bob Novak.

Or the Wilsons, themselves.

I don't know where you are seeing that anybody said it's "OK" that her cover's been blown. Can you point me to it?

As I pointed out before, May said the reason the dem told him was to convince him that Wilson was a patriot and not a whacked out lib trying to bring down President Bush. (The dem is clearly wrong, but that was his stated reason for "blowing" Plame's cover, per May.) So we seem to have a combination of loose-lipped Wilsons, dems trying to convince conservative journalists that Wilson meant no harm to the president, and officials answering questions when a journalist asks "Why the hell would Joe Wilson be selected to go on a trip to Niger to ask about uranium". None of those explanations points to malice on the part of the Bush adminstration, much less revenge or some such nonsense.

Oh, and by the way. Please explain what either one of the Wilsons have done that could even remotely be described as 'treacherous'. Ie: of treason.

Lying about intelligence comes to mind.

51 posted on 10/05/2003 8:54:29 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
Because I am able to use my powers of deduction based on facts and reasoning Sorry, that's not good enough. No. As I plainly stated, that fact is Cliff May's. He stated that a Democrat told him about Plame's CIA employment status before Novak's column appeared. Then this nameless Democrat is also guilty of exposing a CIA operative. And if so, Cliff May is helping to aid and abet a crime by not coming forward with this dem's name. You can think about that while I'm chewing.

Or the Wilsons, themselves. Not unless they're in the habit of writing columns for the Chicago Sun Times under the name "Robert Novak".

So we seem to have a combination of loose-lipped Wilsons

Yeah, you just keep trying to convince yourself of that.

dems trying to convince conservative journalists that Wilson meant no harm to the president Oh, those helpful, helpful dems. Who would have thought they'd go out of their way to help President Bush. And that Cliff May would be so unconcerned about a Democrat's potential violation of national security.

None of those explanations points to malice on the part of the Bush adminstration, much less revenge or some such nonsense

The problem is, they're all pretty unlikely explanations. Because nowhere in any of them was it at any point necessary to reveal Valerie Plame's CIA status. Not by Novak, and not by any senior level officials.

Lying about intelligence comes to mind.

Then let him be charged as such.

Don't you find it a little odd that if that were true, that he wasn't instantly charged with a felony? Or do you think that the White House is relatively easy going about people filing false intelligence reports?

58 posted on 10/05/2003 9:35:58 PM PDT by altayann
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