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To: Miss Marple
Personally, I think that if you take Larry Johnson's word for anything, you are either naive or a Rat.

What about Chuck Hagel? Or Bill Kristol? Are they both secret RINO's too? Can we also discount anything a Republican says if it makes the White House look bad?

There is NO motive to out Plame. First of all, if the administration wanted to kill her career, they could have done so quietly by having her re-assigned to the desk that monitors activity in Antarctica.

???? But that would defeat the main purpose of outing her openly. Which was to send a message to CIA staff to keep quiet about anything that might potentially embarrass the White House regarding Yellowcake, or else face having their careers ruined.

Can you really not see this as a potential motive, or are you just trying not to see it?

Secondly, quite a few people in DC knew that Plame was CIA. There have been several articles on this story.

And each one of those stories trace back to one person: Bob Novak. Hardly an uninterested party.

And even then, there's a huge difference between suspecting that someone works for the CIA, and having it confirmed in the newspaper.

Third, President Bush, whose father was a CIA director, values the CIA and has been quite supportive of their efforts, both publicly and in the budget. To think that he would use the CIA for political advantage, and a small one, is silly.

Actually, I don't think so. In fact, I don't think the President had anything to do with it. But someone within his administration clearly did.

Given Mr. Wilson's attitude and background, I think it far more likely that he used his wife's position to prove his insider knowledge, and that Novak checked with both the CIA and an administration official, who verified it.

So what? That in no way justifies outing a CIA operative. Whomever told Novak that Plame worked for the CIA is probably guilty of a felony.

Why would Bush go after one ambassador and his wife over this story, when he has tolerated and worked with people such as Ted Kennedy, who have said and done much worse things?

Well, probably because ole Teddy hasn't recently undermined the US rationale for going to war with Iraq, as Wilson did. And again, I don't think the President really had anything to do with it.

Sorry, but I don't buy your long list of comments, since many of them are simply YOUR opinion.

Fact: A CIA operative has been exposed.

Fact: Senior administration officials were involved in exposing a undercover CIA agent.

Fact: The CIA cannot afford to allow its agents to think that political officials can occasionally blow their cover either out of malice or incompetence.

I am frankly amazed that so many here don't seem to be grasping the importance of this scandal.

This isn't about politics, this is about *institutions*. The CIA isn't about to let any administration, whether it be Republican, Democratic or Rastafarian, undermine their authority.

52 posted on 10/05/2003 8:56:34 PM PDT by altayann
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To: altayann
The CIA cannot afford to allow its agents to think that political officials can occasionally blow their cover...

Oh, please, the people who "blew" this cover were either the Wilson's themselves or other Clintonistas like them within the CIA or State who hate Bush - and whom he was not savvy enough to remove when he took office.

None of this would have happened had Bush cleaned house and swept people like Joe and Valerie out the door. And their boss with them...

55 posted on 10/05/2003 9:03:42 PM PDT by livius
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To: altayann
But that would defeat the main purpose of outing her openly. Which was to send a message to CIA staff to keep quiet about anything that might potentially embarrass the White House regarding Yellowcake, or else face having their careers ruined.

No. Joseph Wilson's position is the adminstration was wrong that Iraq was trying to acquire uranium. The fact is, Wilson himself thought that was the case in 1999.

You mean you didn't know that? How could that be?

The fact is, the administration is being proven correct, of course, and it is Wilson who looks lamer with each passing day.

And each one of those stories trace back to one person: Bob Novak.

Oops. You're wrong again.

I am frankly amazed that so many here don't seem to be grasping the importance of this scandal.

The scandal is why a group in the CIA was/is trying to undermine President Bush.

57 posted on 10/05/2003 9:15:15 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: altayann
It is hilarious to me that you think you have trumped me by citing Bill Kristol and Chuck Hagel.

Anyone who knows me on this forum knows that I think Bill Kristol is a mole for the Rats! Chuck Hagel is a McCain wannabee.

Bwahahahahaha! I will now go read the rest of your expectedly laughable response.

77 posted on 10/06/2003 5:37:14 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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