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Scuba-diving brothers who also were best friends drown in an underground siphon in Lehi
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 10.3.03 | Michael N. Westley

Posted on 10/05/2003 6:48:26 PM PDT by mhking

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1 posted on 10/05/2003 6:48:27 PM PDT by mhking
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Just damn.

If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

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2 posted on 10/05/2003 6:49:11 PM PDT by mhking (When it rains it pours: I'm looking for a job again -- any offers or help: mhking@bellsouth.net)
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To: mhking
Darwin proved right once again.
3 posted on 10/05/2003 6:51:32 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Guns!)
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Lighten Up, Francis!
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4 posted on 10/05/2003 6:51:47 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: mhking
How long till some scum lawyer convinces the family to sue
whoever operates the canal, the makers of every piece of equipment they were using and anybody else they can think of?
5 posted on 10/05/2003 6:59:48 PM PDT by sticker
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To: mhking
Ignoring a warning from their father.......

A popular thing to do anymore with the way Hollywood and Feminazis have tried to minimze the importance of fathers.

6 posted on 10/05/2003 7:00:12 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul
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To: mhking
Prayers for the family.
7 posted on 10/05/2003 7:00:48 PM PDT by skr (The liberals are only interested in seeking Weapons for Bush Destruction)
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Tragic ping in your back yard...
8 posted on 10/05/2003 7:04:55 PM PDT by tubebender (FReeRepublic...How bad have you got it...)
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To: skr
Yoy're right, prayers for the family. Those two had no right to do this to them.
9 posted on 10/05/2003 7:05:04 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul
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To: mhking
There is absolutely NO WAY you'd catch me cave diving.

You get into trouble and you're screwed. At least in open water diving you can always go up.

I did a heck of a lot of dry cave "spelunking" in my youth. It's dangerous enough without water. You can easily get lost or if you break a leg you can't just call 911.

Imagine being in a tunnel underwater and the silt getting stirred up and you can't see.....gives me shivers just thinking about it.

10 posted on 10/05/2003 7:15:21 PM PDT by FReepaholic (www.september-11-videos.com Never Forget.)
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To: mhking
I know almost nothing about scuba diving----is a structure like this a usual diving location for diving hobbyists?
11 posted on 10/05/2003 7:15:37 PM PDT by gg188
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I wonder if they were even certified? Any competent diver would tell you this was suicide from the start. They might as well have tried to fly off a building.
12 posted on 10/05/2003 7:25:53 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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Nope ..... cave diving is for advanced divers. This dive was just flat out stupid.
13 posted on 10/05/2003 7:26:08 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Virtue untested is innocence)
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I agree.

Cave diving---Shudder!

If you want a real palm-sweater, read Bill Royal's, "The Man who Rode Sharks."

He has a couple cave diving close calls.
14 posted on 10/05/2003 7:26:15 PM PDT by TFMcGuire (Either you are an American or you are a Liberal.)
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To: gg188
I know almost nothing about scuba diving----is a structure like this a usual diving location for diving hobbyists?

Nope.

Diving with anything between you and the surface requires specialized training (cave diving certification) and equipment. Anyone with the specialized training (not to mention anyone with the sense of a turnip) would know this was suicide plain and simple. Witness the rescue divers who declined to go in until the thing was drained.

15 posted on 10/05/2003 7:29:49 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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Ashton would have celebrated his one year wedding anniversary to his wife Tami today, and leaves behind a 7-month-old son,

It sounds like he has a history of avoiding self-restraint and proper planning.

16 posted on 10/05/2003 7:30:22 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: TFMcGuire
I've read that cave diving is the most dangerous sport in the world.
17 posted on 10/05/2003 7:32:47 PM PDT by WackyKat
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To: hopespringseternal
I wonder if they were even certified? Any competent diver would tell you this was suicide from the start.

I don't know. A I know a lot of divers who do some really silly stuff. Dive Instructors diving without a buddy. People wanting to do ultra deep dives (there's nothing to see down there). People diving past their table limits or running their air too low. Diving severely hung over.

I like SCUBA a lot. But I like to keep it sane. I can't think of any reason to dive deeper than 35 meters- and only that if there's something sh!t cool to see. I prefer 25 meters and less. I don't cave dive. I don't dive overly tricky currents. I don't dive in murky water.

What these fellows did was just plain stupid.

18 posted on 10/05/2003 7:37:27 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: mhking
I agree. Nothing else to say.
19 posted on 10/05/2003 8:08:23 PM PDT by dixie sass (GOD bless America)
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"There were no immediate clues as to why the men did not make it out of the siphon, police said."

I'm going to go with ...because they drowned....

""Family always came first to them," said Kevin Stewart, Andrew's brother..."

Except when it came to ...suicide cave diving....

20 posted on 10/05/2003 8:15:06 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Veni Vidi Velcro)
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