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Another Time for Choosing (McClintock for Governor)
October 6, 2003 | StoneColdGOP

Posted on 10/06/2003 9:52:32 AM PDT by StoneColdGOP

With Election Day voting just hours away, conservative voters need to take a hard look at their choices in the recall election. Voting "Yes" on the recall itself to oust Gray Davis is a no-brainer, as voters of all parties and ideologies up and down the state have signed the petitions and are responsible for successfully qualifying the historic ballot question.

But while the recall itself seems headed for a decisive victory, the matter of our failed governor's successor is one that should be causing conservative voters concern. Democrats, at least those willing to recognize Davis will not survive, logically gravitate to left-wing race-baiter and Mechista Cruz Bustamante, or unabashedly embrace their socialist colors by backing the Greens' Peter Camejo. And some of course refuse to acknowledge question two, insisting on a "No on Recall" line alone.

That of course leaves us with two candidates who are contenders for the votes of California's largely conservative Republicans. Oddly enough, only one of the two is himself a conservative, Senator Tom McClintock. The other is Arnold Schwarzenegger, an actor with moderate to liberal view on "troublesome" social issues, which some complain year in and year out are the reasons more traditional Republicans are unelectable to statewide office in California. And so, in the name of pragmatism, many solid conservatives have joined their more centrist colleagues in endorsing and supporting Schwarzenegger, many within days or hours of his entrance to the race and to the shock of many supporting the long-time and proven standard bearer of conservatism, Senator McClintock.

Mr. Schwarzenegger can boast the endorsement of most of California's Republican congressmen, senators and assemblymen, including many stalwart conservatives, as well as Lincoln Clubs up and down the state, the majority of the California Republican County Chairmen, and the Board of Directors (but not the full general membership, it should be noted) of the California Republican Party. McClintock's supporters include a handful of unwavering Republican legislators, Reagan advisor Lyn Nofziger, commentator Bruce Herschensohn, and the endorsement of the preeminent Republican volunteer organization in the state, the California Republican Assembly.

The common knock on Sen. McClintock, and thus the reason many say they won't vote for him, is that he just cannot win. This argument of course, is a self-fulfilling prophecy, if they all refuse to vote for him on the grounds he can't win, then obviously he won't. On the other hand, if voters who regard McClintock as their #1 choice (but settle pragmatically for someone else "electable") do vote their conscience and cast their ballot for McClintock, he CAN win. That however requires conservatives to unite, and ignore the pressure and tactics of Republican Party "leaders".

Enter the campaign to discredit Tom McClintock and discourage his legions of dedicated volunteers. The Republican Establishment is almost totally united against him, as they've never really been that fond of him. The past few weeks have seen not the kind of typically vicious attacks on McClintock from the liberal left we expect, they have instead come, sometimes openly and sometimes whispered, from other Republicans and conservatives. Some like Hugh Hewitt have continually talked down McClintock and his supporters, most recently equating a vote for McClintock to a vote for just about every despised leftist sort from Bill Clinton to the L.A. Times. One particularly poisonous opinion piece compared Sen. McClintock to Gray Davis, with "marginally better hair" (how charitable). Then came the arguments that McClintock's tenacity and stubborn refusal to drop out and hand the race to Mr. Schwarzenegger were the result of his blinding, personal and selfish ambition. Right, the same ambition led him to seek the all-powerful and celebrated job of� state controller. Twice. Especially when he could have easily been a serious contender for governor in 2002, eh? Then there were the charges of McClintock being tainted by taking EEEVIL Indian gaming money and being the beneficiary of Indian independent expenditures. I don't know that this one had much effect. I don't mind Indians. I don't mind gambling. And I don't mind Indians gambling, or offering the Pale Faces a way to gamble on their lands without taking the trip to Vegas. Besides, McClintock was on their side of the Indian sovereignty issue long before they were ever in a position to benefit him politically.

Finally there are the not too veiled threats to McClintock and his supporters of political irrelevance if he were to remain the race and cost the actor a win. There's also talk of recruiting a liberal Republican to run against and defeat Sen. McClintock in the primary next year for his re-election to the 19th Senate district seat if, as they expect, he loses the race for governor.

All this for a Republican who has steadfastly and resolutely stood for conservative values, fiscal responsibility, smaller government and lower taxes in the Legislature and never backed down. And he's never gone on record saying he's "embarrassed to be a Republican", either.

It's funny, because the voters I ran into this weekend while walking precincts DO remember and know what Tom has done for them and DO NOT share sentiments of retaliation and strong-arm tactics to force him from the race. Talk about a disconnect! Seems a rather large one exists between the Republican Establishment and the Republican grassroots and voters. In fact I found quite a few Republican voters quite adamant about supporting McClintock, no matter what the polls say. They were elated to know people were out campaigning for him and made it clear they'd help and try to get as many people as they could to support Tom. And I managed to convince some marginally Schwarzenegger voters to follow the prompting of their conscience and vote for Senator McClintock. They're all glad he stuck to his guns and stood his ground, no one I found wanted him to drop out.

Neither should anyone else. They should want him in the race and want him in to win, and not just keep his supporters' "Yes on Recall" votes in the equation. And yes, HE CAN WIN. All it takes is for every voter who believes Tom to best candidate to vote for him. All that is required for victory is for every voter who says Tom is his or her first choice to go ahead and support him.

That way, conservatives can stay true to their principles, Republican and other voters will know they have sided with the best man for the job, and with Tom McClintock as governor, the Republican Party will not suffer a leftward tilt that would ensure its eventual demise.


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Now is the time for conservatives to come home and vote for Tom.
1 posted on 10/06/2003 9:52:33 AM PDT by StoneColdGOP
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To: StoneColdGOP
So Kalifornians can have a Cruz.
2 posted on 10/06/2003 9:54:16 AM PDT by hobbes1 ( Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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3 posted on 10/06/2003 9:54:50 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: StoneColdGOP
A Vote for McClintock Bump!
4 posted on 10/06/2003 9:55:27 AM PDT by Rabid Dog
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To: StoneColdGOP
You guys a like a cult (and so long winded). McClintock is NOT going to win. Sober up. Is he the best man, YES. Is he a conservative, YES. Is he going to win, NO.
5 posted on 10/06/2003 9:57:29 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: StoneColdGOP; Rabid Republican
McClintock might have had a good shot at the Governorship if people didn't really love Arnold. He connects with the voters on an emotional level, and that beats intellectuals every time.

Tom's run an outstanding campaign for someone not well known who has no money. If he doesn't wind up threatening Arnold - and I don't think he will - he's in a pretty strong position for the next incumbent-free election. (I would not advise him to go against Arnold if and when he runs for a second term).

D

6 posted on 10/06/2003 10:00:10 AM PDT by daviddennis
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To: StoneColdGOP
10,000 yesterday at a rally for Arnold. 30 at one for McClintock.

Is that Kool-Aid Cherry or Grape?
7 posted on 10/06/2003 10:02:35 AM PDT by bootyist-monk (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)
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To: StoneColdGOP
"Finally there are the not too veiled threats to McClintock and his supporters of political irrelevance if he were to remain the race and cost the actor a win. There's also talk of recruiting a liberal Republican to run against and defeat Sen. McClintock in the primary next year for his re-election to the 19th Senate district seat if, as they expect, he loses the race for governor."

Now who would have thought?

I'm shocked ....... shocked I tell you.

8 posted on 10/06/2003 10:03:03 AM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: Impeach the Boy
Is he the best man, YES. Is he a conservative, YES. Is he going to win, NO.

Just suppose that Conservatives in California are actually intelligent (follow me on this!) These Conservatives tell pollsters that they are for Ahnold because he "can win!" "Social liberals" (60 something percent of Cal) split their votes between Camejo, Busty and Ahnold. True Conservatives (30 something percent of California) vote for McClintock and carry the election.

That would be intelligent Conservatives suckering the liberals! Tomorrow we find out if California Conservatives are the same "dim bulbs" that National Republicans seem to have become...

9 posted on 10/06/2003 10:05:00 AM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: daviddennis
Call me unemotional!
10 posted on 10/06/2003 10:06:18 AM PDT by Rabid Dog
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To: StoneColdGOP
http://www.kxtv10.com/storyfull.asp?id=5442
McClintock Calls on Schwarzenegger to Resign If Charges Prove True
State Senator Tom McClintock called on Arnold Schwarzenegger to withdraw from the race for governor if allegations of improper sexual advances prove to be true.

Asked by reporters what he would tell Schwarzenegger, McClintock said, "If those allegations are true, you should drop out of the race."

McClintock was careful not to condemn Schwarzenegger out of hand, but made his feelings on the issue clear. "If the allegations are true, and again coming as late as they are, I believe they need to be treated with great skepticism, that conduct is reprehensible," he said.

He went on to tell reporters that if the charges are proven, Schwarzenegger does not deserve to occupy the governor's office. "As the father of a 13-year-old daughter, I would have a great deal of trouble accepting that that kind of conduct has been elevated to the highest office in the state," he said.

The potential scandal hovering over Schwarzenegger could provide an unexpected boost for McClintock's campaign. The conservative state senator is current lagging well behind both Schwarzenegger and Democrat Cruz Bustamante in the polls.

 

11 posted on 10/06/2003 10:09:51 AM PDT by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary, the Hildabeast, Mistress of ALL Darkness? Me Neither!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Impeach the Boy
Another "it's the voters fault" commentary? Tom has run his campaign, and not convinced voters they should vote for him. Whose fault is that? I place it squarely on Tom's shoulders.
12 posted on 10/06/2003 10:10:56 AM PDT by TheDon
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To: Onelifetogive
If frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their a$$e$.
13 posted on 10/06/2003 10:11:32 AM PDT by EggsAckley (..........................all my pings are belong to ......YOU.....................)
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To: StoneColdGOP
Well said. But I fear its too late for those conservative and moderate Republicans you talk about, to see the error of their ways and do what's right for California. Vote for Tom McClintock. By joining forces with the wishy washy centrists, aka. RINO's, they've clearly sold out their principles and convictions in the name of defeating Davis/Bustamonte, at all costs. Schwarzenegger is another political liberal and won't make the serious changes that Tom McClintock has spoken about making. Arnie won't even take a no tax pledge, or release specifics of his economic recovery plan for California. Arnie's campaign has done a good job of controlling the media and getting out their message to the people. But its been a message short on details and long on platitudes, soundbites and slogans.

It would appear that's what Californian's want right now. The future may hold something different.

14 posted on 10/06/2003 10:14:54 AM PDT by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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To: bootyist-monk
Amazing what some money will buy.
15 posted on 10/06/2003 10:15:36 AM PDT by Rabid Dog
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To: StoneColdGOP
Consider McClintock's campaign a success if he gets a greater percentage of actual votes than he's been getting consistently in the opinion polls and be satisfied with that.

I can understand why you'd post a last-minute appeal like this, but it's too late in the game for this to do any good. If Arnold and McClintock were within a few points of each other, it might be different. But it's not.

16 posted on 10/06/2003 10:17:26 AM PDT by wimpycat (Down with Kooks and Kookery!)
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To: Onelifetogive
Remember Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick. Remember also we had a sleazmeister Texas Senator named JE Buster Brown who had a reputation for mauling the young ladies. He stayed in office for about 20 years continuing this boarish behavior. Then when one of the young pretties, who was only 19, and worked for him, pressed charges against him.... he was forced to face up to his internal demons. He didn't run for office again. I have to admit I didn't know about his bad behavior and I am sure I used to vote for him because he was the only Republican running for his office. I have learned my lesson. I will not vote for a guy like that anymore.

I have been molested, and I have had two rape attempts on me and I can tell you it is NOT FUN! (When I was 5, 12, and again in high school by "friends" and "family")

I didn't press charges, I was young and stupid. I was convinced that I would be blamed in some way. Now I realize it was NOT my fault it was the guys' problem. IF Arnold is guilty of these charges he has a problem. If he was doing this two years ago, he REALLY has a problem.

When the story first broke about Arnold and the ladies I said "How old was he when this happened????"
My 22 year old son answered "Old enough to KNOW BETTER."
He likes Arnold's movies, but I am sure he would not vote for him.

Maybe Arnold has been hanging around with the Kennedy's to long......
17 posted on 10/06/2003 10:18:21 AM PDT by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary, the Hildabeast, Mistress of ALL Darkness? Me Neither!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: StoneColdGOP
Nice article.

The reference to "The Speech" in your title is particularly compelling - "They say the world has become too complex for simple answers. They are wrong. There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right."

18 posted on 10/06/2003 10:18:30 AM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: buffyt
I have to admit I didn't know about his bad behavior and I am sure I used to vote for him because he was the only Republican running for his office.

The funny thing about these charges is that they should affect Arnold's conservative supporters more than his liberal supporters. If the people who support "Clinton" and "Arnold" remain with Arnold after these charges and those who supported "Clinton's impeachment" and Arnold abandon him and take up with McClintock.....maybe...just maybe...

19 posted on 10/06/2003 10:24:04 AM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: StoneColdGOP
yes Recall,Tom,53,54 bump
20 posted on 10/06/2003 10:25:52 AM PDT by tophat9000
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To: StoneColdGOP
Wednesday morning, mcperot will recieve either his "get out and stay out" from Republicans who understans politics or; he will be declared a "Don of the Revolution" aand appointed the Secretary of Angelo Affairs for the new motherland state of mexifornia by a gateful Governor snooze
busta-my-wallet.
One other thing, all you tombots can get a free subscription to the la times just by identifying yourselves as a tombot. The indians will pay for it.
21 posted on 10/06/2003 10:27:17 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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To: bootyist-monk
10,000 yesterday at a rally for Arnold. 30 at one for McClintock.

Yes, but those 30 were so pure and clean. And Tom's campaign footed the bill for prune juice for all.

22 posted on 10/06/2003 10:30:49 AM PDT by per loin
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To: daviddennis
He connects with the voters on an emotional level, and that beats intellectuals every time.

Perhaps with you! I've met you before LOL... lets just say a Star Trek example might be able to "connect" best...

I've said it before, I'll say it again, (R)nold's support is broad but shallow. The worst thing that could ever happen to him is to actually have to govern. The people will sober up very quickly. If he survives till 2006, Tom had better run. If he doesn't, I probably could beat what is left of JoinArnold.

23 posted on 10/06/2003 10:33:15 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (That's pre-election bogus, Arnold Schwarzenegger.)
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To: jmaroneps37
One other thing, all you tombots can get a free subscription to the la times just by identifying yourselves as a tombot. The indians will pay for it.

The more of these kinds of posts I read the more convinced I am that win or lose I'm on the right side.

24 posted on 10/06/2003 10:33:45 AM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: StoneColdGOP
Go Bustamante, Go!
25 posted on 10/06/2003 10:34:42 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: bootyist-monk
30 at one for McClintock

And they are all registered on FR.

26 posted on 10/06/2003 10:36:09 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: StoneColdGOP
I like the title. The CA GOP could sure use a man like Reagan right about now...
27 posted on 10/06/2003 10:36:28 AM PDT by NittanyLion (Character Counts)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Latest off the grill...

Backstage pass

28 posted on 10/06/2003 10:40:37 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Anagram of my screenname: TRUE UNCLE TRUER COCONUT)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
ROFL!!! Great one.
Where's Drier?
29 posted on 10/06/2003 10:46:40 AM PDT by calcowgirl (Right Wing Crazy #4052977)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA; CheneyChick
Wrong approach.

To reach me, you need Steve Jobs' endorsement. I can picture my new PowerMac G5 in the sky, rotating as it does in the introductory video, with "Vote for Tom!" engraved on its bright aluminum surface.

Unfortunately, I don't think that will work because not even Steve could get me to support Davis or Bustamante, and sadly those are the people he supports :-(.

But seriously ...

Go ahead and vote for Tom. With Bustamante fading and Arnold continuing to do well, it won't make any difference, and it will support a message that I think it's good to have out there.

My message was just reporting on the facts as I saw them, and was not meant to influence your personal decisions. It was just telling you what's out there.

D

30 posted on 10/06/2003 10:48:22 AM PDT by daviddennis
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To: StoneColdGOP
Tom McClintock. Proposition 54.

YES!!! YES!!!
31 posted on 10/06/2003 10:48:50 AM PDT by calcowgirl (Right Wing Crazy #4052977)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I say if we want a real conservative, why not vote for Bob Dole himself?
32 posted on 10/06/2003 10:50:24 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Far out, man!)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Go Bustamante, Go!

That is such a red herring. Shame on you partisan hacks.

33 posted on 10/06/2003 10:52:35 AM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: StoneColdGOP
Very well put, and thanks for taking the time to articulate the truth.

Obviously, the polls now show that Boostyourtaxes is a nonstarter. That being the case, the real question is question one. So all Republicans of conscience, whether Arnold supporters or Mac the Knife (the tax cutter and spending cutter) supporters need to get out and vote tomorrow, and vote yes on the recall.

As far as Arnold or Mac, it's now a free and open question. There is no need to vote for the lesser of two evils. Just vote for whomever you think is the best man for the job and let the chips fall where they may.

I know I will not be disappointed if Mac the Knife does not win. Believing in the politics of personal responsibility means that I realize that happiness comes from within. It is not conferred upon me by a governor or a president or whatever.

So, whoever you are and whatever you believe, just do what you think is right. Vote for who you think is best for the job. The polls (a reflection of and Boostyourtaxes stupidity) have freed you from worrying about voting to keep someone else out.

34 posted on 10/06/2003 10:54:09 AM PDT by massadvj
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To: StoneColdGOP
While so many are busy standing on principle, demanding full conservative alleginace (which is what the demorats demand) the other side is setting there very happly eating our lunch. If you want purity go to a convent if you want to win elections and have a say in the country go with the winner. 75% is better than 0%. Take your wins when and how you can. Don't get wrapped around the axle of "conservative correctness."
35 posted on 10/06/2003 10:55:39 AM PDT by engrpat
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To: Impeach the Boy
You guys a like a cult (and so long winded). McClintock is NOT going to win. Sober up. Is he the best man, YES. Is he a conservative, YES. Is he going to win, NO.

No, we are the 20% of REAL conservatives who think morality matters. You are one of the liberals who have no moral anchor other than "the ends justify the means" - moral relativism.

Here is what Alan Keyes has to see about you and your liberal RINO brethren:

Tom's supporters are called arrogant for persisting in making moral judgments. Think about that for a moment. Why is it "arrogant" to act on what human beings can know, rather than to act as if we had knowledge that can only belong to God? Is it humble to have more faith in what the pollsters extrapolate in the present, and consultants predict about the future, than in what the Lord and reason have revealed to us all as the unchanging moral truth?

The worst enemy Republicans face in the political realm is not the Democrats, but the power of evil that lurks in all hearts. In the context of this true reality, the decision to vote for Schwarzenegger is not a clever tactical calculation. It is a strategic blunder. Troy did not fall until the Trojans brought the horse into their city. The Greeks offered them a false victory, and so destroyed them. The leadership of the California Republican Party does not appear much wiser than the Trojans', nor, I fear, will its fate be any happier.

The problem with "speaking no ill" of fellow Republicans, and expressly shielding such "leaders" as this man, is that we must be ever after silent in the face of the very defects we would loudly and rightly call to account in a Democrat, a Libertarian or anyone else.

Such silence reduces all talk of morality to a cynical, partisan show – which precisely serves the purposes of those who are trying to drive every shred of moral concern from our political discussions. This outcome is an enduring defeat that overshadows any transitory victory of office-holding.

Morality is on our side and you don't have a moral leg to stand on.

36 posted on 10/06/2003 10:59:17 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: daviddennis
My message was just reporting on the facts as I saw them, and was not meant to influence your personal decisions. It was just telling you what's out there.

Yeah, mine too. You have no idea what you are in for with (R)nold actually leading.

Resistance, is futile...

37 posted on 10/06/2003 10:59:53 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (That's pre-election bogus, Arnold Schwarzenegger.)
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To: StoneColdGOP
I don't think Tom McClintock's lack of support is due to the California Republican establishment not being behind him. Because the GOP is split, I question whether there is a coherent Republican establishment in California. Some credibility problems have arose with McClintock, that his supposedly principled conservative supporters have disturbingly ignored. McClintock told Darell Issa that he would not be a spoiler, but he has also promised his supporters he is in this race to the finish. He can't have it both ways. And considering the fact his support has stalled out at no more than 15%, Tom McClintock definitely will not win the Recall. However with all the garbage Davis is slinging on Schwarzenegger and the electorate's general gullability to not put two and one together in terms of the timing of this smear, McClintock's spliting the vote could hand the Governorship to Bustamante. This is where we are today. Californian Republicans cannot make a quick switch to a conservative like McClintock. The mainstream political landscape there, simply won't accept him and that is largely why he won't win. Schwarzenegger, albeit not a social conservative, is clearly committed to fiscal conservative and seeing as how the problems of California are fiscal in nature, he is probably the states best bet. I just ask Californians to please not screw this one up, like what happened with Riordan and Simon last year.
38 posted on 10/06/2003 11:02:58 AM PDT by miloklancy
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To: StoneColdGOP
Now is the time for conservatives to come home and vote for Tom.

Rush just announced that together the Republicans hold 60% of the vote. NOW pray tell me.....if 75% of the GOP voters say Tom McClintock is their choice but CAN'T WIN, together it would be a LANDSLIDE if the Arnold voters would join us.....and don't ask us to TURN IT AROUND THE OTHER WAY.......some of us have principles that are more important than compromise.Tom could be a WIN WIN situation. DON'T look down at the water....walk on it!!! GO TOM GO!!!!

39 posted on 10/06/2003 11:05:59 AM PDT by pollywog
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To: engrpat
the other side is setting there very happly eating our lunch.

Democrats don't eat my lunch. They may control the government, but I still eat my own lunch. Like large numbers of others, I moved out of the state and took my business with me.

The evil socialists then turned around and started eating each other. And it has been fun to watch as California has gone the way of the Soviet Union, Europe and every other state that has embraced liberal ideology.

The greater USA is next, I fear.

40 posted on 10/06/2003 11:07:11 AM PDT by massadvj
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To: hobbes1
Hmmmm? Is that what happened to you in NEW YORK!! when you elected Hillary ???
41 posted on 10/06/2003 11:07:37 AM PDT by The Final Harvest
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To: exmarine
There are plenty of REAL conservatives who have endorsed Arnold. Just check out the list:

http://www.joinarnold.com/en/leadership/endorsements.php

42 posted on 10/06/2003 11:07:50 AM PDT by Recourse
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To: bootyist-monk
Sorry .. your data is faulty .. the 30 was the group for Davis .. not Tom. I live in San Diego, and I know!
43 posted on 10/06/2003 11:09:24 AM PDT by The Final Harvest
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To: buffyt
. IF Arnold is guilty of these charges he has a problem. If he was doing this two years ago, he REALLY has a problem.

How about 3 years ago?? 2000?? IF, and I say IF....these allegations are true, Bustamante WILL BE the next Governor because many GOP California voters,voted for Arnold and not Tom.....sad how casting " bread on the water....returns".

44 posted on 10/06/2003 11:10:13 AM PDT by pollywog
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To: StoneColdGOP
The second rate state senator from California's 5 minutes are about up. He has served Hillary well in her strategy to capture the White House in 2004. Tomorrow, he won't matter anymore...
45 posted on 10/06/2003 11:11:00 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
LMAO.. Thanks!
46 posted on 10/06/2003 11:11:15 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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47 posted on 10/06/2003 11:13:23 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: daviddennis
Next year your G5 will seem pretty puny compared to the Pentium V's coming out w/ 4-7GHz CPUS and 4GHz FSB memory buses... and the chip is STACKABLE when you want multiple processors! Don't know how they will cool the darned things tho...
48 posted on 10/06/2003 11:14:55 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: Recourse
There are plenty of REAL conservatives who have endorsed Arnold. Just check out the list:

In that case, they have sold out their values for pragmatism. No way around it. This is NOT a principled act - it is an act of prostitution.

49 posted on 10/06/2003 11:16:40 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: StoneColdGOP
FYI - I was out there in the fierce Fresno heat on Saturday "walking for Tom" when I happened on your average Joe working in his front yard. He thanked me for the brochure and then said, "Any one with an ounce of common sense will be voting for Tom McClintock." I rest my case.
50 posted on 10/06/2003 11:16:56 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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