[wardaddy]

Too bad they are going Meheca/Azatlan Socialist way

Yeah...but they are gonna have to hold onto it aren't they? (grin)

Altitude is a strong humbler. I have been gasping with my heart galloping and look over and some leathered up old Indian woman with a Bowler Hat and a Ruana (poncho) is walking up hill with a 60 pound sack of homemade charcoal on her back and a big fat handrolled stogie in her mouth and cheeks full of coca and acting like she could care less that the air is about 50% less oxygenated than at sea level.

Life is not fair in unexpected ways. It used to take me weeks to get really used to say 9K or above....and I would drop weight bigtime due to cardiopulmonary extra compensation. I have read that tall folks are more affected by altitude. I saw my dad get all goofy at Pikes Peak once as a kid and he flat passed out on his face at Mt Lemon in Arizona when I was a wee one and he was in USAF FS there.

[Squantos]

Agree.......aclimation was something I mandated for my troops. We went from 105-115 degree heat in Great Salt Lake region of Utah near Wendover (Eagle Range) where we'd been walking every inch of the ranges conducting a surface range clearance for UXO's. This was in Jun/July of 90. Aug 2, 90 Saddam kicked in the door to Kuwait. We arrived in the UAE on the 8th of Aug thinking were were "aclimated" to sun/heat/dry desert.

At 0300L it was 120 degrees on the ramp when we climbed off our C-130. First few days we hid like rats from the heat and oven like sun. After about 3 or 4 days we started running & PT at night to minimize the effects. It still dropped a few of my troops and me with heat related stress and such.

Mother Nature will kick ya in the nads if ya don't respecte her 24/7.

Stay Safe !