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To: wardaddy; SLB; Jeff Head
The wild geese was good "movie" but when I watch a movie I wan't to see some realism. Maybe it had enough but I didn't like Richard Harris then or now so I didn't watch it but once. One reason I never listed The Green Berets with Marion Morrison. When I couldn't find an M16 like old Johns that I never had to reload when I joined the service I was pissed.........:o)

Just like the recent Tears of the Sun flick. When old Bruce went off mission and didn't bag an gag that whining big itch and throw her ass on the helo I thought pop her with 10cc's in the butt and debate later or shoot Bruce and let NCO take over the mission. But mooooooovie was the reason we were watching.

Platoon had some of the fear factors in it at the end during the final battle scenes. Albeit not a war flick per se the old Gary Cooper movie where he went to get the 6 or 7 Medal of Honor troops and return them to the US. That had a lot of "realism" . As did the movie with Robert Taylors Battaan and They Were Expendable with John Wayne. The improvised hodge podge make do scenes reflect history as I have only read it and experienced it during my service career in more modern times.

One of my favorite reads was a book called "40 miles a day on beans and hay". And a turn of the century old officers manual I have in my possession. Thus Ft Apache and she wore a yellow ribbon portrayed a lot of tradition and actual procedures I found in that old officers manual.

Raid on Entebbe with Charles Bronson was very good IMO as I remember reading the press as the event happened. Course the IDF didn't tell all I pretty sure but it was very close as I remember it.

Thanks for the list of your favorites guys . Some I haven't seen and will look for based on your recommendations.

Stay Safe !

155 posted on 10/11/2003 11:05:38 AM PDT by Squantos ("Ubi non accusator, ibi non judex.")
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To: Squantos
Two Obscure Brit movies that show real lessons in leadership

The Bofors Gun - Based on the play "events while guarding the bofors gun". An buck sergeants worst nightmare about dealing with eccentric characters on guard mount.

Guns At Battasi - Richard Attenborough gives the perdormance of his life as a British RSM in Africa in the early 1960s during the turn over of a colony to the locals. Great lessons in leadership there.

The best thing I've seen in a long time is Band of brothers especially 3 episodes

1. The drop into Normandy best special effects of tracers and planes being shot down I've ever seen.

2. The Battle of the Bulge episode that focuses on the company medic

3. The episode after that that shows how the company 1sg holds the unit together in spite of a useless commander

Private Ryan was technically impressive but the characters did things that normal Infantrymen would never do (like small-talk converse in normal tones on patrol)

Thems my contributions.

All the best

Qatar-6

157 posted on 10/11/2003 11:25:44 AM PDT by Qatar-6
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To: Squantos
bag an gag that whining big itch

Bag and gag Monica Belluci has some interesting Helmet Newton images doesn't it?

I liked Tears of the Sun mainly because the producers were not afraid to show black on black west African horror for what it is...and did not PC sanitize it.

You are right though, I assume a Spec Ops team would have simply snatched her ass and done exactly as you described. Neutralize now and debate society can come later.

158 posted on 10/11/2003 11:27:32 AM PDT by wardaddy (I'm thinking.....)
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To: Squantos; Jeff Head; Travis McGee; harpseal
When I couldn't find an M16 like old Johns that I never had to reload

I am laid up today after some minor surgery on my foot this morning so have been watching some old westerns on the Western Channel (we splurged and signed up for digital cable and that is the favorite of all the kids). I did not know there was such a thing as an eleven shooter, but I just saw Matt Dillon with one. It might even have been a twelve as he reholstered after dispatching three bad guys. Still love them old episodes and Gene Autry, and others.

169 posted on 10/11/2003 3:31:33 PM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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