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To: irishtenor
(psst, don't tell the RC's, but she had sex with Joseph, after Jesus was born of course.)
17 posted on 10/27/2003 5:16:36 PM PST by Gamecock (Going to church no more makes you a christian than sleeping in your garage makes you a car. Keiler)
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To: Gamecock
No, say it ain't so!
18 posted on 10/27/2003 5:43:49 PM PST by irishtenor (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati ............(When all else fails, play dead))
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To: Gamecock
"I firmly believe that Mary according to the words of the gosepl as a pure Virgin brought forth for us the son of God and in childbirth and after childbirth forever remaining a pure, intact Virgin." Ulrich Zwingli

"I esteem immensly the Mother of God, the ever chaste, immaculate Virgin Mary," Ulrich Zwingli

(Zwingli Opera. Corpus Reformatorum; Volume 6, page 639 and 424)

"It is an article of fiath that Mary is the Mother of the Lord and still a virgin." Martin Luther

"In this work whereby she was made the Mother of God, so many and such great good things were given her that no one can grasp them." Martin Luther

(Works of Luther, volume 11, page 319-320, volume 6, page 510, volume 7, page 572)
28 posted on 10/28/2003 8:11:43 AM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: Gamecock
BTW, that is no "secret." That is the echo of an ancient heresy. It began in the Synagogue of Satan.

"Accepi litteras vestras" to Anysius 392 A.D. from Pope Siricius

" Surely, we cannot deny that regarding the sons of Mary the statement is justly censured, and your holiness has rightly abhorred it, that from the same virginal womb, from which according to the flesh Christ was born, another offspring was brought forth. For neither would the Lord Jesus have chosen to be born of a virgin, if he had judged she would pollute the generative chamber of the Lord's body, that palace of the eternal King. For he who imputes this, imputes nothing other than the falsehood of the Jews, who say that he could not have been born of a virgin. For, if they accept this authority from priests, that Mary seems to have brought forth many children, they strive to sweep away the truth of faith with greater zeal."

YOPIOS echoes an ancient heresy. Even the Reformers disagree with you.

45 posted on 10/28/2003 1:40:36 PM PST by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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