[jobim]

Hello to my Protestant fellows. I'm Catholic and stick to the Catholic threads, but the overt attack on the ONE TRUE CHURCH did catch my eye. Your positions are erroneous because you possess no grounding in history, and as soon as you do establish those groundings, you will cease to be Protestant and join the ONE TRUE CHURCH. Just keep in mind that the Eucharistic Lord is the center of the ONE TRUE CHURCH: don't you hunger to receive Him? Read John 6: Christ will always be waiting for you to feed you. He calls all to be ONE with Him in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

[dangus]

Not only no grounding in hostory, no grounding in scripture! For we are told that the Church shall be unified, and visible. The various churches squabble amongst themselves over virtually every issue, break off into their own little denominations, and are invisible to the world.

[drstevej]

***Just keep in mind that the Eucharistic Lord is the center of the ONE TRUE CHURCH***

The It is Finished Lord or the Perpertual Sacrificed Lord?

***don't you hunger to receive Him?***

Have received Him by faith, not by tongue.

***Your positions are erroneous because you possess no grounding in history, and as soon as you do establish those groundings, you will cease to be Protestant and join the ONE TRUE CHURCH.***

Just guessing, but I may have more church history background than you and am still Protestant more than ever. Let me reword your dictum a bit....

Your position is erroneous because you possess no grounding in the Bible, and as soon as you do establish those groundings, you will cease to confuse Catholicism with the ONE TRUE CHURCH.

[opus86]

"Your positions are erroneous because you possess no grounding in history..."

IMHO, the Truth as revealed in Scripture is more important than history.

[RnMomof7]

Hello to my Protestant fellows. I'm Catholic and stick to the Catholic threads, but the overt attack on the ONE TRUE CHURCH did catch my eye. Your positions are erroneous because you possess no grounding in history, and as soon as you do establish those groundings, you will cease to be Protestant and join the ONE TRUE CHURCH. Just keep in mind that the Eucharistic Lord is the center of the ONE TRUE CHURCH: don't you hunger to receive Him? Read John 6: Christ will always be waiting for you to feed you. He calls all to be ONE with Him in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

This is an attack on no one.

Perhaps if you are interested in "attack" threads you will read the one posted by a Catholic a few weeks ago that found general agreement among your fellow that Protestants worship a different god than Catholics..and are doomed. While Islam worships the same god as Catholics..I will not comment on my thoughts on that ,

History is not a marker of truth, after all Hitler and Stalin were also historic. The measure of truth is Jesus

[RnMomof7]

Read John 6: Christ will always be waiting for you to feed you. He calls all to be ONE with Him in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

Just wanted to comment on this Jobim.

John 6 is the great predestination chapter..It might be very good if you really read it:>))

[biblewonk]

In all of my bible reading I've never read about "The Eucharistic Lord" no not once.

[Havoc]

There are soooo many things one could say; but, It boils down to this. Everything she says is scriptural. You rely on what men have done since whatever date according to a group who can't prove themselves according to scripture and must therefore excuse themselves via an unproveable historical record that largely betrays them. Christians are not grounded in history, they're grounded in Christ.

I've been through these arguments over and over. Christ defined who the church is and what signs follow them. Pretenders to Christianity have largely created their own definitions of the church in order to mask the fact that they don't align with Christ's definition. Just as they have supplanted their own doctrines for the teachings of Christ.

Christ hung on a cross as a sacrifice that when finished, sealed the covenant making Christianity possible. He came off the tree and rose again to present the sin of the world to God once and for all as forgiven. At that point, the covenant was sealed. Never again since has a blood sacrifice been required for sin. How then, praytell, do you have a blood sacrifice in your mass? Spare us.

One really need not go very far in examining scripture to tell that the claimers of the "true church" banner historically are also trailing behind them a history that
looks more like the devil's work than that of Christ.
Where is it written that the church shall murder people for
believing differently. Where is it written that men must wear the mark of the church or be burnt at the stake? One by one we can rattle off issues of doctrine where the presumed "one true" church teaches contrary to scripture, acts contrary to scripture and has been contrary to scripture.

If we base it on historical action, then there is no unbroken lineage from the time of the Apostles - even a single "anti-pope" means that the line is broken. Accept those from the reign of harlots as it is lovingly called and it's an abomination. Reject them, and it's a broken line. Tough choice huh? Either they were holy or they weren't. Either they were a successor in spirit or in title. In all cases it's in title only and a title that was dreamt up over half a century after Christ ascended.

That church stole an empire through fraud, murdered those who believed differently, persecuted Israel, subborned the use of fraudulent documents and forged teachings, histories, laws and the like. It has both duped and been duped by fraud. If it doesn't care about the difference or can't tell the difference between fraudulent writings and true ones, then all claim of authority in such matters is forfeit. Authority is more than a claim. If you show me a pinto and tell me it's a corvette, reality wins. It's a pinto. Stop telling us it's a corvette then you won't have to be offended when all of us, seing it's a pinto, points out the fraudulent claim. Better yet, why not just read Christ's definition of the church and become one of us. Christians are not protestants. Nor are they anything else but Christian. Or did you not know that Christian was the term used early on. Christians follow Christ. Not men, not philosophy, etc. Christians follow Christ. Jump on the bandwagon. You too can be persecuted for following Christ and his example. You too can be defamed by Religious people and society at large alike.

[Iowegian]

I'm Catholic and stick to the Catholic threads, but the overt attack on the ONE TRUE CHURCH did catch my eye.

Oh I see, it's OK with you when the RB church is arrogant enough to call itself the one true church, but when the true Biblical message of what the church really means, you object. Very telling. BTW there's nothing that I see in the above message that excludes RC's from the one true church. Can you make that claim?

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

Your positions are erroneous because you possess no grounding in history,

Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Basing your belief on if somthing is right or not on what history says is following the traditions, and philosophy of the world.

Becky

[ladyinred]

So you take this article to be an attack on the Catholic Church? I didn't at all, in fact, I would include my brothers and sisters in Christ of the Catholic Church as part of the One True Church. Believing that Jesus Christ came in the flesh and died in our place is the mark of the believer. Catholics do believe that, as do most Protestants.