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Yes, the "spirit" of Vatican II was in many ways a destructive force. However, that does not mean that the Pope and the Council itself are heretical. In fact, you may not believe it, but Pope John Paul II and Cardinal Ratzinger are actually the good guys and are helping to preserve the deposit of faith from modernists and false teaching that has crept into the Church.

"In fact, you may not believe it, but Pope John Paul II and Cardinal Ratzinger are actually the good guys and are helping to preserve the deposit of faith from modernists and false teaching that has crept into the Church."

You are right, I don't believe it.

The evidence against the orthodoxy of these two men is overwhelming. From the Pope's kissing of the Koran to his traveling about the earth apologizing for the historical Church and everything in between I am saddened. From his teaching that "evolution is more than just a theory" to his shocking refusal to excommunicate a single priest or bishop amongst the hundreds upon hundreds of clergy who raped boys and the dozens of Bishops who covered up this atrocity, there is nothing whatsover to convince me of the Holy Father's orthodoxy.

The pope will write his opposition to Communion in the hand, but then hold Masses on Vatican grounds where he himself distributes Communion in the hand. He invites the likes of the heroin addicted, anti-society icon Bob Dylan to entertain himself at the Vatican and holds embarrassing and bizarre "Youth Day" events all over the globe that rival a Madonna concert with raucus music and faithless teens looking for a fun time. He has no problem whatsoever excommunicating or censuring a rebellious CONSERVATIVE bishop or priest, but obstinately refuses to do the same to the rebellious LIBERAL clergy and prelates. I could go on all night citing evidence that this Pope is no conservative or orthodox Catholic, but to those who are too afraid to admit the facts no amount of evidence will convince them. So be it.