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Catholic Bishops Eye Possible Crackdown of Pro-Abortion Pols
CrossWalk ^ | 11/11/2003 | David Thibault - CNS News

Posted on 11/11/2003 9:29:19 PM PST by yonif

(CNSNews.com) - The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, responding to calls that they discipline pro-abortion Catholic politicians, has established a commission to consider whether the public figures can be excommunicated, according to individuals monitoring this week's autumn convention of the bishops in Washington, D.C.

The politicians in question include Democratic presidential candidates John Kerry and Dennis Kucinich.

"This was not something that was on the agenda, but was brought up and...the first steps are being taken to seat this committee," said Joe Giganti, spokesman for the American Life League's Crusade for the Defense of Our Catholic Church, which Monday launched an ad campaign to try to persuade the bishops to take action.

Judie Brown, president of the American Life League, said the commission was approved Monday night and Dallas, Texas, Bishop Joseph Galante was selected to head the panel.

"Something had to be done with these pro-abortion politicians who claim to be Catholic," Brown said. "For 30 years, hundreds of pro-abortion Catholic politicians have created scandal in the church, and I think the bishops have finally determined that they are going to deal with this, and that is why this commission was created."

The American Life League has identified 412 state and federal politicians nationwide who have identified themselves as Catholic while also supporting abortion rights.

Sen. Kerry (D-Mass.) and Rep. Kucinich (D-Ohio) both adhere to the Catholic Church's opposition to capital punishment but are at odds with the church over abortion. Telephone calls to both presidential campaign offices went unreturned Tuesday, but Kerry's campaign website clarifies the senator's position on abortion.

In defending the right of women "to control their own bodies, their own lives and their own destinies," Kerry's website boasts: "He recently announced he will support only pro-choice judges to the Supreme Court.""

Brown pointed out: "What's really strange about Kucinich in particular is that for years, he claimed he was pro-life. When he decided to run for president, he had a conversion experience."

In fact, Kucinich's presidential campaign website acknowledges the conversion.

"I've had a journey on this issue that a year ago, before I became a candidate for president, caused me to break from a voting record that had not been pro-choice," Kucinich's website states. "After hearing from many women in my own life, and from women and men in my community and across the country, I began a more intensive dialogue on the issue. A lot of women opened their hearts to me. That dialogue led me to wholeheartedly support a woman's right to choose."

Kucinich added: "A woman can't be free unless she has this right."

The Catholic Church's Code of Canon Law 915 specifies that: "Those upon whom the penalty of excommunication or interdict has been imposed or declared, and others who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin, are not to be admitted to Holy Communion.""

The controversy involving pro-abortion Catholics has not been isolated to Democrats. Former Pennsylvania Republican Gov. Tom Ridge, who currently serves in the Bush administration as Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, clashed with his own bishop in Erie, Pa., over the issue in 1999.

Ridge, a former altar boy and regular churchgoer, according to a Detroit News article, was told by Bishop Donald Trautman that he would not be allowed to speak at church events because of his support of abortion rights.

Later, when he was mentioned as a possible vice presidential running mate to George W. Bush, Ridge's dispute with Trautman was seen as a potential turn-off for Catholic voters and viewed as a factor in Ridge being eliminated from the running.

"It's obviously pretty difficult for me because it puts me at odds with my faith community," Ridge said during the controversy.

William Donohue, president of the Catholic League, described as the nation's largest Catholic civil rights organization, believes the bishops have "been getting enough heat from the people who pay the bills who are the orthodox Catholics" to look at possible changes in the way the church treats pro-abortion Catholic politicians.

"And there are enough bishops themselves who are up in arms over this thing. It's become a running joke within the Catholic community," Donohue said.

However, Donohue cautioned that if the bishops decide to establish a tougher policy on abortion, they might eventually have to deal with other thorny issues as well.

"When you go down the line of excommunication, denying the sacraments in public and things of that nature, you've opened up the door to those people who are going to say, 'Well, what about this guy who differs with the Catholic Church about the death penalty?'"

Still, Donohue said: "There's nothing that rivals the interest that the church must have about protecting innocent human life. It trumps farmers' rights, the economy and the environment.

"The fact that [the bishops are] moving in this direction, that they're being nudged to respond, I think is encouraging."


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To: franky
All right, let's suppose this could go beyond public servants.

Suppose a church denomination (any of them) announced it would excommunicate (or de-fellowship or whatever) any congregant who, as member of a jury in a court case, voted contrary to the denomination's policies. How about that?

41 posted on 11/12/2003 11:52:15 AM PST by DonQ
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To: dangus; Desdemona
You should calrify that you are only listing the pro-choicers. You make it look like all Catholic politicians are pro-choice!

mea culpa!

42 posted on 11/12/2003 12:13:33 PM PST by ckca
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To: yonif
bump for later
43 posted on 11/12/2003 12:31:55 PM PST by Steve0113
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To: ckca; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; ...
"These people are commonly associated with various Dissident Organizations or beliefs as indicated (see also the Dissident Organization page). The names of these individual dissidents, which are listed in alphabetical order by common dissent topic, are offered for your education and awareness. This list is not complete and will be modified as more information is learned over time."

Abortion and Euthanasia

Sen. Joseph Biden (D-DE) Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen."
Sr. Mary J. Bujak Sex Information and Education Council for the United States (SIECUS).
Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen."
Sen. Tom Daschle (D-SD) Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen."
Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-CT) Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen."
Sr. Margretta Dwyer Sex Information and Education Council for the United States (SIECUS).
Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA) Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen."
Joan Harriman National Organization for Women member who founded Catholics for a Free Choice.
Mary Hunt Sex Information and Education Council for the United States (SIECUS).
Bishop Franz Kamphaus German bishop in Frankfurt who, in direct defiance to cease and desist orders from the Vatican, offers counseling certificates to pregnant women who can use said certificates to obtain abortions.
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen."
Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen."
Fr. Arthur L. Kinsella Sex Information and Education Council for the United States (SIECUS).
Frances Kissling President of Catholics for a Free Choice.
Sr. Marie A. Kopin Sex Information and Education Council for the United States (SIECUS).
Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA) Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen."
Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen."
Daniel C. Maguire Teaches at Marquette University. Justifies abortion by saying "when the woman consents to the pregnancy ... God then infuses a soul into the body," thereby implying that killing the "fetus" is not killing a person.
Patricia Fogarty McQuillan National Organization for Women member who founded Catholics for a Free Choice.
Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen."
Meta Mulcahy National Organization for Women member who founded Catholics for a Free Choice.
Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen."
Jon O'Brien Catholics for a Free Choice.
Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen."
Denise Riley Catholics for a Free Choice.
Elisabeth Schussler-Fiorenza Sex Information and Education Council for the United States (SIECUS).

44 posted on 11/12/2003 1:21:43 PM PST by NYer ("Close your ears to the whisperings of hell and bravely oppose its onslaughts." ---St Clare Assisi)
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To: yonif
Judie Brown bump

(But little confidence in this "Bishops' committee")

45 posted on 11/12/2003 4:18:56 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: yonif
Also posted here.
46 posted on 11/12/2003 10:38:44 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: yonif
PETITION TO EX-COMMUNICATE PRO-ABORTION CATHOLIC ELECTED OFFICIALS

It is Time to Excommunicate the Politicians

47 posted on 11/25/2003 7:04:21 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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