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A look at the future of the papacy
Washington Times ^ | December 23, 2003 | Roger A. McCaffrey

Posted on 12/23/2003 5:40:34 AM PST by ultima ratio

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:11:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Pope John Paul II does not have long in this world. No medically savvy observer of the man can deny the signs of anemia and hints of organ failure. With fresh press reports about kidney dialysis and spreading cancer, it is hardly shocking to hear cardinals talk openly of his demise and the subsequent conclave to elect a successor. Some outspoken Church liberals suggest the pope should resign, a move that was unthinkable before the liberalizing Second Vatican Council of 1962-65. Today, politicking for the chair of St. Peter is less hidden than ever before.


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TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: cardinals; papacy
McCaffrey is right. JPII has never been a conservative--and has been very far removed from Catholic Tradition. This fully explains the great devastation caused by his long ineffectual reign--with no relief in sight.
1 posted on 12/23/2003 5:40:35 AM PST by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio
The upcoming Hussein trial could be a watershed event for many Catholics. The Pope, who is infallible when speaking to matters of faith and morals, declared that it would be morally wrong to remove Hussein by force. When the atrocities committed by Hussein are systematically presented in trial for the whole world (especially for Americans), one would have to wonder how infallible the Pope really is.
JP2 has done a lot of good for the Catholic Church and the world. He has come closer to being "Pope for all Christians" than anyone since perhaps Pope Gregory the Great. Unfortunately, in the last 25 years, the Vatican has effectively become anti-war, anti-death penalty, and not terribly supportive of capitalism.
2 posted on 12/23/2003 8:24:50 AM PST by bobjam
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The Pope, who is infallible when speaking to matters of faith and morals, declared that it would be morally wrong to remove Hussein by force.

Your understanding of papal infallibility is in error. The pope can invoke infallibility, but not every moral utterance of the pope carries such weight. The statements about Iraq certainly did not.

However, to your broader point, I agree. Infallibility aside, the Pope and the Vatican squandered a great deal of moral authority defending an Islamic Stalinist dictatorship. I believe the pope intended to use this as an opportunity to teach a greater moral lesson (and I also believe that lesson would not ultimately refute the war, but quibble about the particulars leading to it), but he personally lacks the energy he used to be able to bring to such issues.

Left to his subordinates, the "moral lesson" might as well have been delivered by the French foreign minister, or a U. N. committee. It had the decidedly secular flavor of modern Europe, with scarce reference to traditional Church teaching.

3 posted on 12/23/2003 9:07:00 AM PST by Snuffington
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To: ultima ratio
McCaffrey is right. JPII has never been a conservative--and has been very far removed from Catholic Tradition. This fully explains the great devastation caused by his long ineffectual reign--with no relief in sight.

What I don't understand is why McCaffrey's publishing company sells all kinds of "JPII We Love You" books. He offers such an eclectic mix of traditional, semi-traditional and neo-Catholic books that it makes you wonder why McCaffrey is supporting the cult of personality around this "left-center" pope?

4 posted on 12/23/2003 11:42:39 AM PST by Maximilian
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To: ultima ratio
Isn't Tettamanzi a conservative (sort of)? I agree the next Pope will be an Italian. What about the new Italian Cardinals?
5 posted on 12/23/2003 12:26:28 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: ultima ratio
Hiya UR, long time no see.

Itlaians? I would hope we do not get a European or any westerner for that matter.
6 posted on 12/23/2003 12:31:18 PM PST by NeoCaveman (The only thing found in the middle of the road are yellow streaks and roadkill)
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To: ultima ratio
Permit me a blonde question. Why does a small country like Italy have more Cardinals than a huge country like the USA?
7 posted on 12/23/2003 1:02:33 PM PST by karenbarinka (an enemy of Mel Gibson is an enemy of Christ)
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To: bobjam
declared that it would be morally wrong to remove Hussein by force.

Incorrect, although the communist secular press would have you believe that. Check out the archives at www.zenit.org, or this forum. The Pope said, consistent with Traditional Just War doctrine, that the use of force should be a "last resort". It was. We (USA, UK, et al.) tried various forms of diplomacy. They failed. So we tried bombs, tanks and soldiers. Very successful. And we took appropriate steps, as John Paul II reminded us we should, to minimise civilian casualties and damage. This Pope is more supportive of justifiable warfare and capitalism than the commie press wants to let on.

8 posted on 12/23/2003 1:08:51 PM PST by ArrogantBustard
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