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To: johnb2004
My point was that I never read about Rome intervening in "liberal" heterodox issues, or seldom anyway

There have been a few cases where Rome has stepped in, emphatically: e.g., the 'banning' of the priest/nun wackos from "New Way Ministries," the squashing of "liberation theo," etc. But Rome does not act in the American way, with press releases describing her actions. They really prefer to treat people with some dignity. There have been all KINDS of actions taken, resembling those of Bp. Burke--a letter is sent, but we NEVER know about it unless it becomes clear that the letter/condemnation/whatever MUST be made public for the sake of the Faithful (in Burke's case, the letter was made public through the press, which found one through an open-records request; subsequently, another letter-recipient admitted on direct questioning that he, too, had received the letter.) Needless to say, recipients of letters/admonitions from Rome are typically interested in keeping it quiet.

65 posted on 01/21/2004 8:17:50 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: ninenot
Let me say first that I consider myself a loyal Catholic and am a great fan of the Pope. I do believe things are improving, but I do not see anything wrong in the trying to understand the perplexing way Rome has acted the past few decades. Many fair minded and loyal folks have wondered why Rome does not act in a more forceful manner.

Now, I understand that there are times when things happen behind the scenes, but one whould be hard pressed to make a case that Rome has done as much as they could in stopping abuses of all types. I am not referring to the sexual scandals alone. As I have said many times here, one can go into a McDonalds anywhere in the USA and know what one is getting, the same is not true of a Catholic parish. One may get a licit faithful mass and instruction or one may get material heresy and illicit masses.

We all know that the bishops are to blame in many respects, but one can't make a case that Rome is not aware of the tremendous dissent that has occurred. Why are some made bishops or cardinals when they defy Church teachings for example?

I see nothing wrong with the faithful urging Rome to act in a more direct and clear manner to stop error.
68 posted on 01/21/2004 9:00:42 AM PST by johnb2004
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