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To: Maximilian
The tribunal might be fooled by their lies and their pretences, and the members of the tribunal might feel sympathy for the couple, but God's justice will not be fooled, nor will it allow sympathy to prevent the execution of His divine will -- an eternity of suffering in Hell. Those couples who think they are getting away with something will find that scrap of paper cold comfort.

You are very quick to put people in hell, Max (and why capitalize the name of the place?).

No one is going to hell for honestly seeking an annulment, your condemnations notwithstanding.

13 posted on 02/02/2004 3:55:46 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur
>>The tendency to extend declarations of marital nullity while disregarding the objective truth is a distortion of the whole process, John Paul II warned when receiving members of the Roman Rota in audience.

Hmm, wouldn't a regard for the objective truth be utilizing the code of canon law as the basis for what constitutes a valid marriage?

On that note, it seems that those of us who strive for objective truth are viewed by the tribunal participants as angry, immature, uncoperative, and obsessive-compulsive people.

However, I think there is vindication here from the Holy Father for these "uncoperative" people.

>>e said on Thursday that "often, the real problem is not so much the presumption [of the validity of the marriage], but the whole view of marriage itself and, therefore, the process to establish the validity of its celebration. This process is essentially inconceivable outside the horizon of the search for the truth."

Hmm, seems like the fishing expeditions utilized by the dioceses are under fire here. Anullment questionaires are often used to elicit grounds why a "bad" marriage is invalid. Yet, the Pope basically smacks that practice down here as not being objectively truthful. The condition of the marriage is not grounds for anullment!

>>"The tendency to extend nullities instrumentally, neglecting the horizon of the objective truth, entails a structural distortion of the whole process: The instruction loses its incisive character as the result is predetermined," the Pope emphasized.

This is why many anullments are not valid. Objective truth has been neglected, and MINOR psychological/social reasons are utilzed as excuses for invalid anullments.

The practice of the tribunals/JV's presuming that a marriage is invalid and the resulting extension [of what are grounds for anullment] basically takes the wind out of such declarations. In other words, the anullment's credibility is lacking and it's weight is questionable.

17 posted on 02/02/2004 6:22:45 PM PST by 1stFreedom
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