[HarleyD]

God doesn't always work the way He did as with Abraham. Look at John the Baptist. Jesus said that he was greater than all the prophets (and Hebrews says Abraham was a prophet) but God never once that we know of spoke to him. God works in whatever way He wills to bring us to Him.

I don't understand the point about Thomas and how it fits with the faith of Abraham.

[connectthedots]

I don't understand the point about Thomas and how it fits with the faith of Abraham.

I mentioned Thomas as a contrast to Abraham. Certainly there were prophesies concerning Christ that are associated with Abraham and therefore, in my thinking, arguably predestined. As for Thomas' 'doubting', I don't think (unless there is a related prophesy I can't think of) one could argue with much certainty that that particular incident was predestined/foreordained. If an incident directly involving Jesus and Thomas may not have been predestined, it is certainly reasonable to conclude that there are events involving most men that are not a result of predestination.