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To: Dr. Eckleburg; xzins; P-Marlowe; Vernon; Corin Stormhands; Revelation 911
The 1994 edition of the CD-ROM Webster's Concise Interactive Encyclopedia claims that Michael Servetus "was burned alive by the church reformer Calvin,"

Just a couple observations. First, the article does not deny or dispute this claim. In that the writer appears to be an admirer of Calvin, one must assume that this allegation is true.

Secondly, this article ascribes positive characteristics about Calvin that are missing from some around here. I find it a bit difficult to believe that a man who was supposedly friendly toward those who disagreed with him on theology would have several people who did not agree with him put to death over those disagreements.

I think the author is being a bit too generous in his comments about John Calvin.

9 posted on 02/06/2004 2:20:13 PM PST by connectthedots (Recognize that not all Calvinists will be Christians in glory.)
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To: connectthedots
Calvin was a friend of Melancthon, and on many points of doctrine he was rather moderate. Personally he was far more temperate than Luther, not as harsh as Knox, and his patience under suffering was commendable. In many respects he was like Loyola.
11 posted on 02/06/2004 2:47:00 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: connectthedots
I find the article an absolutely wonderful attempt to rehabilitate the tragic history of intolerance and deeply flawed theology. The author deserves applause!
18 posted on 02/06/2004 3:47:08 PM PST by Vernon (Sir "Ol Vern" aka Brother Maynard, a child of the King!)
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To: connectthedots; Dr. Eckleburg
Great article on Calvin.

While John Calvin did play a role in Michael Servetus dead, he was not by far the only one. Everyone was out to get him including the RCC. It's a little disingenuious to ascribed Michael Servetus dead solely to Calvin.

Contrary to what the end of the article states, Michael Servetus works eventually became the foundation for the Unitarian Universal "Church".

Below is an excerpt from a very lengthy article. If you're interested in more info the web site is

http://www.uua.org/uuhs/duub/articles/michaelservetus.html

In 1538 Servetus, as Villeneuve, got into trouble with the faculty of medicine, the Parlement of Paris, and the Inquisition for mixing astrology with medicine. Although he was acquitted by the Inquisition, the Parlement ruled that his published self-defense was to be confiscated and he was to desist from the practice of astrology. Servetus left Paris shortly thereafter, perhaps without a degree, to practice medicine in the area of Lyons. Around 1540 he became the personal physician of Pierre Palmier, Archbishop of Vienne.

During his twelve-year residence in Vienne, living as the inoffensive Doctor of Medicine, Michel de Villeneuve, Servetus was busy in his spare time preparing his major theological treatise, Christianismi Restitutio (The Restoration of Christianity). He also began, in 1546, a fateful secret correspondence with his old acquaintance, John Calvin. By this time Calvin, author of Institutio Christianae Religionis (Institutions of Christian Religion), 1536, and pastor and chief reformer of Geneva, was the most prestigious figure in the Reform branch of Protestantism.


John Calvin
Calvin's theology had included little mention of the trinitarian nature of the godhead until, in 1537, another reformer, Pierre Caroli, accused him of being an Arian. Although cleared by a synod at Lausanne, Calvin was afterwards on his guard and determined to deal severely with deviations in this area of orthodoxy. The subject, associated with unpleasant memories, was distasteful to him. Servetus, surely aware of Calvin's previous lack of clarity on the subject, bombarded him with letters insisting on unorthodox conceptions more radical than those he had presented a decade and more ago. Calvin replied with increasing impatience and asperity. Servetus sent Calvin a manuscript of his yet unpublished Restitutio. Calvin reciprocated by sending a copy of the Institutio. Servetus returned it with abusive annotations. On the day Calvin broke off the correspondence, he wrote to his colleague, Guillaume Farel, that should Servetus ever come to Geneva, "if my authority is of any avail I will not suffer him to get out alive."

When Servetus published the Restitutio in early 1553 he sent an advance copy to Geneva. The printed text included thirty of his letters to Calvin. Soon afterward, at Calvin's behest, the identity of "Villeneuve" was betrayed to the Catholic Inquisition in Vienne. After his arrest and interrogation Servetus managed to escape from the prison. On his way, perhaps, to northern Italy where, he believed, there were people receptive to his writings, he made his way across the border to Geneva. Recognized at a Geneva church service, he was arrested and tried for heresy by Protestant authorities.

The secular officials were unable to establish that Servetus was an immoral disturber of the public peace. Nevertheless, he made damaging theological statements in the course of a written debate with Calvin. The Council of Geneva, after receiving the advice of churches in four other Swiss cities, convicted Servetus of antitrinitarianism and opposition to child baptism. Calvin asked that Servetus be mercifully beheaded. The Council insisted he should be burned at the stake.

Spectators were impressed by the tenacity of Servetus' faith. Perishing in the flames, he is said to have cried out, "O Jesus, Son of the Eternal God, have pity on me!" Farel, who witnessed the execution, observed that Servetus, defiant to the last, might have been saved had he but called upon "Jesus, the Eternal Son." A few months later Servetus was again executed, this time in effigy, by the Catholic Inquisition in France.

Many Protestants approved the Genevan sentence. Others, especially in Basel, were not so sure that heretics ought to be put to death. In answer to critics, Calvin quickly put together and published, in 1554, a justification, Defensio orthodoxae fidei, contra prodigiosos errores Michaelis Serveti Hispani (Defense of Orthodox Faith against the Prodigious Errors of the Spaniard Michael Servetus). He argued that to spare Servetus would have been to endanger the souls of many. In the same year Calvin was answered by Sebastian Castellio, in Contra libellum Calvini (Against Calvin's Booklet). Castellio declared that "to kill a man is not to protect a doctrine; it is but to kill a man. When the Genevans killed Servetus, they did not defend a doctrine; they but killed a man." He said that "if Servetus had wished to kill Calvin, the Magistrate would properly have defended Calvin. But when Servetus fought with reasons and writings, he should have been repulsed by reasons and writings."

Nearly all copies of Servetus' magnum opus, Christianismi Restitutio, were destroyed by the authorities. Only three have survived. Its peculiar, unorthodox trinitarian theology, which made Servetus a hunted man in nearly every country in Western Europe, cannot be summarized simply. Unitarian scholar Earle Morse Wilbur, who translated De Trinitatis Erroribus, found the Restitutio less to his liking and passed over coming to terms with it. John Godbey, a Unitarian Universalist scholar of the Reformation, wrote that "most persons lack sufficient understanding of his views to make defensible statements about him."

Servetus rejected the doctrine of original sin and the entire theory of salvation based upon it, including the doctrines of Christ's dual nature and the vicarious atonement effected by his death. He believed Jesus had one nature, at once fully human and divine, and that Jesus was not another being of the godhead separate from the Father, but God come to earth. Other human beings, touched by Christian grace, could overcome sin and themselves become progressively divine. He thought of the trinity as manifesting an "economy" of the forms of activity which God could bring into play. Christ did not always exist. Once but a shadow, he had been brought to substantial existence when God needed to exercise that form of activity. In some future time he would no longer be a distinct mode of divine expression. Servetus called the crude and popular conception of the trinity, considerably less subtle than his own, "a three headed Cerberus." (In Greek mythology Cerberus is a three-headed dog-like creature of the underworld.)

Servetus did not believe people are totally depraved, as Calvin's theology supposed. He thought all people, even non-Christians, susceptible to or capable of improvement and justification. He did not restrict the benefits of faith to a few recipients of God's parsimonious dispensation of grace, as did Calvin's doctrine of the elect. Rather, grace abounds and human beings need only the intelligence and free will, which all human beings possess, to grasp it. Nor did Servetus describe, as did Calvin, an infinite chasm between the divine and mortal worlds. He conceived the divine and material realms to be a continuum of more and less divine entities. He held that God was present in and constitutive of all creation. This feature of Servetus' theology was especially obnoxious to Calvin. At the Geneva trial he asked Servetus, "What, wretch! If one stamps the floor would one say that one stamped on your God?"

Calvin asked if the devil was part of God. Servetus laughed and replied, "Can you doubt it? This is my fundamental principle that all things are a part and portion of God and the nature of things is the substantial spirit of God."

The devil was an important factor in Servetian theology. Servetus was a dualist. He thought God and the devil were engaged in a great cosmic battle. The fate of humanity was just a small skirmish in salvation history. He charged orthodox trinitarians with creating their doctrine of the trinity, not to describe God, but to puff themselves up as central to God's concern. Because they defined God to suit their own purposes, he called them atheists.

Servetus' demonology included the notion that the devil had created the papacy as an effective countermeasure to Christ's coming to earth. Through the popes the devil had taken over the church. Infant baptism was a diabolic rite, instituted by Satan, who in ancient days had presided over pagan infant sacrifices. He calculated that the Archangel Michael would soon come to bring deliverance and the end of the world, probably in 1585.

Dualism, millenarianism, and modal trinitarianism are not elements of the Servetian legacy which Unitarian Universalists today celebrate. Nor were they affirmed by those of Servetus' contemporaries most in sympathy with his thought, the Italians—later known as Socinians—who developed and spread an early form of Unitarianism in Poland. They took heart from some aspects of Servetus' doctrine and ignored or rejected the rest. Nevertheless, although Michael Servetus has now no real disciples and never had any, his pioneering life and the tragedy of his death did inaugurate, in a sense, the history of modern liberal religion.
22 posted on 02/06/2004 3:54:13 PM PST by HarleyD (READ Your Bible-STUDY to show yourself approved)
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To: connectthedots
The common claim that "Calvin burned Servatus" has often been disproven--but it does take some explanation, which wasn't the purpose of the article. I'll try to give a (very) brief explanation.

Servatus was a highly intelligent and outspoken critic of organized religion of the day. Virtually everyone at that time believed religion and politics were inseparable (as they had always been up to then) and ideas of religious pluralism were unknown. As hard as it is for us moderns to conceive, heresy was seen as a direct threat to public order. Roman Catholic authorities of the day were regularly burning condemned heretics by the hundred (and soon thereafter, by the tens of thousands--the massacre of French Calvinists). This was, after all nearly 500 years ago.

Servatus had been twice condemned by a Roman Catholic court as a heretic (he denied the Trinity among other things) and had fled to Geneva, apparently knowing its (RELATIVE) tolerance. There he stayed unmolested by Calvin or the Genevan government for 2 or 3 months. Then one day, in Church, Servatus started shouting at Calvin as he preached, disputing him. For an already condemned heretic (on issues he would have known Calvin and the Genevans agreed with Rome on) this was suicidally stupid...

Servatus was immediately arrested, and the City authorities put him on trial--open heresy was after all a civil crime (remember, no concept of separation of church and state). It’s actually quite a mark of tolerance that Servatus was not arrested when he first came to Geneva....I'm sure they were hoping for repentance. Calvin supported the prosecution...after all, he was not a Jeffersonian liberal--such didn't exist yet--however, when condemned to be burned, Calvin argued that he should be executed in the most humane way of the day (beheading) not cruel burning. The City Fathers ignored Calvin’s advice. Apparently even the burning did not go well--as they had not burned anyone before, so didn’t get it right.

Geneva at the time had a 3 tier status of residents. You had citizens, who were those who were born there of important families born there, residents, those who may have been born there or lived there long enough to rise to the privilege of official residents, and finally resident aliens--those born elsewhere who had little or no rights. John Calvin was in the 3rd category. I believe toward the end of his life he was granted resident status. By no means was John Calvin ever the dictator of Geneva. Did the City Fathers respect and often do what he wanted....yes, however not always--as they even kicked him out for a few years, and did other things (like Servatus method of execution) Calvin didn't approve of.

"I find it a bit difficult to believe that a man who was supposedly friendly toward those who disagreed with him on theology would have several people who did not agree with him put to death over those disagreements."

Only Servatus was executed for heresy by the City Court of Geneva when Calvin was present. Within the same time frame other Christians--Catholic, Lutheran, and Anabaptist--in other places were killing people for religious reasons by the thousands and more.

FOR HIS ERA, John Calvin was indeed a tolerant man.
66 posted on 02/06/2004 9:26:45 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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