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On the Freedom of the Will: Part II: Section I (Refuting Arminian Free-Willism)
CCEL ^ | 1754 | Jonathan Edwards

Posted on 02/10/2004 10:46:05 AM PST by ksen

On the Freedom of the Will

PART II

Section I: Showing the manifest inconsistence of the Arminian notion of Liberty of Will, consisting in the Will's self-determining Power.

Having taken notice of those things which may be necessary to be observed, concerning the meaning of the principal terms and phrases made use of in controversies concerning human liberty, and particularly observed what Liberty is according to the common language and general apprehension of mankind, and what it is as understood and maintained by Arminians; I proceed to consider the Arminian notion of the Freedom. of the Will, and the supposed necessity of it in order to moral agency, or in order to any one's being capable of virtue or vice, and properly the subject of command or counsel, praise or blame, promises or threatenings, rewards or punishments; or whether that which has been described, as the thing meant by Liberty in common speech, be not sufficient, and the only Liberty, which make, or can make any one a moral agent, and so properly the subject of these things. In this Part, I shall consider whether any such thing be possible or conceivable, as that Freedom of Will which Arminians insist on; and shall inquire, whether any such sort of Liberty be necessary to moral agency, &c. in the next part. And first of all, I shall consider the notion of a self-determining Power in the Will: wherein, according to the Arminians, does most essentially consist the Will's freedom; and shall particularly inquire, whether it be not plainly absurd, and a manifest inconsistence, to suppose that the Will itself determines all the free acts of the will.

Here I shall not insist on the great impropriety of such ways of speaking as the Will determining itself; because actions are to be ascribed to agents, and not properly to the powers of agents; which improper way of speaking leads to many mistakes, and much confusion, as Mr. Locke observes. But I shall suppose that the Arminians, when they speak of the Will's determining itself, do by the Will mean the soul willing. I shall take it for granted, that when they speak of the will, as the determiner, they mean the soul in the exercise of a power of willing, or acting voluntarily. I shall suppose this to be their meaning, because nothing else can be meant, without the grossest and plainest absurdity. In all cases when we speak of the powers or principles of acting, or doing such things we mean that the agents which have these Powers of acting, do them, in the exercise of those Powers. So where we say, valor fights courageously, we mean, the man who is under the influence of valor fights courageously. Where we say, love seeks the object loved, we mean, the person loving seeks that object. When we say, the understanding discerns, we mean the soul in the exercise of that faculty So when it is said, the will decides or determines, this meaning must be, that the person, in the exercise of: Power of willing and choosing, or the soul, acting voluntarily, determines.

Therefore, if the Will determines all its own free acts the soul determines them in the exercise of a Power of willing and choosing; or, which is the same thing, it determines them of choice; it determines its own acts, by choosing its own acts. If the Will determines the Will then choice orders and determines the choice; and acts c choice are subject to the decision, and follow the conduct of other acts of choice. And therefore if the Will deter mines all its own free acts, then every free act of choice is determined by a preceding act of choice, choosing that act. And if that preceding act of the will be also a free act. then by these principles, in this act too, the will is self-determined: that is, this, in like manner, is an act that the soul voluntarily chooses; or, which is the same thing, it is an act determined still by a preceding act of the will, choosing that. Which brings us directly to a contradiction: for it supposes an act of the Will preceding the first act in the whole train, dieting and determining the rest; or a free act of the Will, before the first free act of the Will. Or else we must come at last to an act of the will, determining the consequent acts, wherein the Will is not self-determined, and so is not a free act, in this notion of freedom: but if the first act in the train, determining and fixing the rest, be not free, none of them all can be free; as is manifest at first view, but shall be demonstrated presently.

If the Will, which we find governs the members of the body, and determines their motions, does also govern itself, and determines its own actions, it doubtless determines them the same way, even by antecedent volitions. The Will determines which way the hands and feet shall move, by an act of choice: and there is no other way of the Will's determining, directing, or commanding any thing at all. Whatsoever the will commands, it commands by an act of the Will. And if it has itself under its command, and determines itself in its own actions, it doubtless does it the same way that it determines other things which are under its command. So that if the freedom of the will consists in this, that it has itself and its own actions under its command and direction, and its own volitions are determined by itself, it will follow, that every free volition arises from another antecedent volition, directing and commanding that: and if that directing volition be also free, in that also the will is determined; that is to say, that directing volition is determined by another going before that; and so on, till we come to the first volition in the whole series: and if that first volition be free, and the will self-determined in it, then that is determined by another volition preceding that. Which is a contradiction; because by the supposition, it can have none before it, to direct or determine it, being the first in the train. But if that first volition is not determined by any preceding act of the Will, then that act is not determined by the Will, and so is not free in the Arminian notion of freedom, which consists in the Will's self-determination. And if that first act of the will which determines and fixes the subsequent acts, be not free, none of the following acts which are determined by it can be free.-- If we suppose there are five acts in the train, the fifth and last determined by the fourth, and the fourth by the third, the third by the second, and the second by the first; if the first is not determined by the Will, and so not free, then none of them are truly determined by the Will: that is, that each of them are as they are, and not otherwise, is not first owing to the will, but to the determination of the erst in the series, which is not dependent on the will, and is that which the will has no hand in determining. And this being that which decides what the rest shall be, and determines their existence; therefore the first determination of their existence is not from the Will. The case is just the same, if instead of a chain of five acts of the Will, we should suppose a succession of ten, or an hundred, or ten thousand. If the first act he not free, being determined by something out of the will, and this determines the next to be agreeable to itself, and that the next, and so on; none of them are free, but all originally depend on, and are determined by, some cause out of the Will; and so all freedom in the case is excluded, and no act of the will can be free, according to this notion of freedom. If we should suppose a long chain of ten thousand links, so connected, that if the first link moves, it will move the next, and that the next; and so the whole chain must be determined to motion, and in the direction of its motion, by the motion of the first link; and that is moved by something else; in this case, though all the links, but one, are moved by other parts of the same chain, yet it appears that the motion of no one, nor the direction of its motion, is from any self-moving or self-determining power in the chain, any more than if every link were immediately moved by something that did not belong to the chain.-- If the Will be not free in the first act, which causes the next, then neither is it free in the next, which is caused by that first act; for though indeed the Will caused it, yet it did not cause it freely; because the preceding act, by which it was caused, was not free. And again, if the Will be not free in the second act, so neither can it be in the third, which is caused by that; because in like manner, that third was determined by an act of the Will that was not free. And so we may go on to the next act, and from that to the next; and how long soever the succession of acts is, it is all one: if the first on which the whole chain depends, and which determines all the rest, be not a free act, the Will is not free in causing or determining any one of those acts; because the act by which it determines them all is not a free act; and therefore the Will is no more free in determining them, than if it did not cause them at all.-- Thus, this Arminian notion of Liberty of the Will, consisting in the will's Self-determination, is repugnant to itself, and shuts itself wholly out of the world.


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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
fighting cock...

Never heard of it, but how appropriate! I've never drown my whiskey in beer before but I couldn't let a Baptist out drink this Episcopalian boy. Some things are just not to be done.

Woody.
1,143 posted on 02/18/2004 9:00:46 PM PST by CCWoody (a.k.a. "the Boo!" Proudly causing doctrinal nightmares among non-Calvinists since Apr2000)
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To: xzins; CARepubGal
Hoping that the old Austin Powers trick will work.....


(asks a third time) Have you ever posted under another name?
1,144 posted on 02/18/2004 9:00:59 PM PST by drstevej
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To: CCWoody
You've never had a boiler maker before?

If this must be done I say we use the one of best!

The drunker I stand here, the longer I get!

BigMack

1,146 posted on 02/18/2004 9:13:49 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
I've never wasted Crown by diluting it. But, like I said, I'm game. Who would have figured that we could thank the new wind on the Religion forum for making us drinking buddies.

Woody.

P.S. Just so I know, we still pretend to NOT know each other in the beer store. Right?
1,147 posted on 02/18/2004 9:26:54 PM PST by CCWoody (a.k.a. "the Boo!" Proudly causing doctrinal nightmares among non-Calvinists since Apr2000)
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To: Jim Robinson; A.J.Armitage
Killfile?? Care to elaborate for those of us still in the DOS 3.2 days?
1,148 posted on 02/18/2004 9:52:23 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord (I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper)
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To: xzins
Think so?
1,149 posted on 02/18/2004 9:54:31 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord (I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
KumBaYah seems like the only appropriate thing I can say anymore. So sad.
1,150 posted on 02/18/2004 9:56:00 PM PST by CARepubGal (SWMBFAO. Watching my back)
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To: xzins
KumBaYah (it is in your hymnal)
1,151 posted on 02/18/2004 9:57:11 PM PST by CARepubGal (SWMBFAO. Watching my back)
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To: CARepubGal
KumBaYah seems like the only appropriate thing I can say anymore. So sad.

Not Bloody Likely! There is something to be said for exclusive Psalmody.

1,152 posted on 02/18/2004 10:03:18 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord (I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper)
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To: RnMomof7
Certainly! Feel free to add to or alter it in any way.

It is amazing how this list demonstrates how God honors the free-will choices of these individuals, but is still able to accomplish His Will. Jonah's will got him into all kinds of trouble, however God was able to bring about circumstances to accomplish what He wanted anyway.

If Jonah, and some of the others, had just taken the time to lay down their will for God's Will it would have been so much smoother for them. Jonah's saving grace was that he knew and acknowledged the God who created him. Jonah could have possibly been used in a much mightier way, as with Joseph, Daniel or Elisha, if he had chosen obedience over obstinance. We will still see Jonah in heaven, he'll be just ruling over less than he could have. God forbid that we don't learn this lesson today.

GOD'S WILL IS MEGAFOLD BETTER THAN OUR WILL!

God wants to show His rich love to all of us in a much deeper way, if only we could chose to deny our will as Christ Jesus did in Gethsemane. God can make the future turn out exactly as He plans no matter what our choices are, He is that powerful. But the more we seek Him first in our life the more spiritual blessings we will have here and real treasure in heaven to come.
1,153 posted on 02/18/2004 10:05:35 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical!)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
Good point my Elect Brother.
1,154 posted on 02/18/2004 10:06:37 PM PST by CARepubGal (SWMBFAO. Watching my back)
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To: Tribune7
Those are some great ones too.

The Bible is chalk full of failures. Hemingway marveled at this and believed the scriptures could be nothing but Divine for this reason.
1,155 posted on 02/18/2004 10:25:22 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical!)
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To: Markofhumanfeet; drstevej; CCWoody; Wrigley
I saw that and thought it was because you people just aren't getting suspended fast enough...

LOL! I turn my back to have a real life for just a few hours and return to find the party's picking up steam.

When's the limbo contest?

1,156 posted on 02/18/2004 11:08:20 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
It lets you block all posts by specified poster(s), so you don't see them. I would bet it cuts flamewars by 50%.
1,157 posted on 02/18/2004 11:09:35 PM PST by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: Corin Stormhands; Gamecock
"Walk this way."

Marty Feldman's funniest line.

1,158 posted on 02/18/2004 11:20:30 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"What Hump?"

1,159 posted on 02/19/2004 12:23:56 AM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord (I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
LOL!

I watched "Airplane" today for about the 10th time; I'd forgotten how hilarious that movie was.

The original "Don't call me Shirley." I'd bet there are more jokes in "Airplane" than in any other 90 minutes on film.

1,160 posted on 02/19/2004 12:42:56 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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