To: jonboy
. . . who are Catholic will likely see Mary as divine . . . Catholics do NOT see Mary as divine! I'm sick and tired of this canard by Protestants who should know better.
21 posted on
02/21/2004 4:16:45 PM PST by
choirboy
To: choirboy
Hmmmm? I know Catholics who do consider her divine, or having special powers. If that were not the case, why would some Catholics pray to her ..?? That seems curious to me.
148 posted on
02/21/2004 6:54:25 PM PST by
CyberAnt
(The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
To: choirboy
Please clarify, I always thought that Catholics consider Mary as divine and pray to her as an intercessor. If you want to get to Jesus, you have to pray thru Mary--that's how I understood the Catholic dogma. My hairdresser explained it to me that way. Please clarify if this is not what Catholics believe.
230 posted on
02/21/2004 8:41:55 PM PST by
Ciexyz
To: choirboy; WayneM; jonboy
I was educated and reared Catholic.
One of the holy days that I recall is the Feast of the Assumption. It is about the bodily taking up of holy Mary into heaven.
Perhaps this is supposed to be after her death, but the emblems I've seen show her standing on a cloud with her arms spead and a halo over her head, rising into the sky.
I have seen no representation of any other "mere" mortal doing that.
To: choirboy
I'm not Catholic, obviously, nor is my faith a knee jerk or "protest" against the Catholic faith. That said, isn't it true that some Catholics believe Mary to be a Co-Redemptress and may even go so far as to want her included in the Godhead?
Dr. Miravalles Vox Populi Mariae Mediatrici movement has presented over five million signatures to the Holy See humbly requesting a solemn definition of the Marian titles Coredemptress, Mediatress or all graces and Advocate. A third of the cardinals and over a quarter of the Catholic episcopate have signed the petitions.
The present Holy Father since the beginning of his pontificate has, like his immediate predecessors in the See of Peter, often taught the doctrine of Marian coredemption, and is the first Pope since Pius XI to employ the title Coredemptress in public addresses, where he has used it at least six times.
Do a search on Google and type in Mary and Godhead and see what comes up. I'm not an expert on Catholic doctrine any more than they are an expert on mine. That said Jesus is my redeemer and advocate before the Father, I believe that Mary has no roll in that.
263 posted on
02/21/2004 9:49:58 PM PST by
jonboy
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